Armchair GM Thread 2022-2023

[CarltonTheBear]

Engvall-Strome-Nylander just feels so right.

 

[OldTimeHockey]

After reading that article on Strome, he just doesn?t sound like a prototypical Dubas-type player. Slow foot speed and subpar defensive instincts. (Well maybe the subpar defensive instincts)

I think if there's one particular thing that Dubas values over all else it's hockey sense, and Strome is often praised for having that in spades. The other things are always somewhat fixable to some degree with proper coaching/development, and we also know that Dubas loves a project to work on.

Yup. Brains and raw physical tools are what the team seems to focus on. Strome has those. His speed is less of a concern if his line mates are good skaters, as long as he?s able to get back defensively.

I think that depends on just how much slower he is. I don't know a lot about him, but with the speed of the Leafs, a much slower player is really going to stand out. If they are constantly chasing the play, it'll hurt. Is he Nik Ritchie or Joe Thornton slow? Gauthier slow?

 

[herman]

https://twitter.com/oilersdailyy/status/1546496944570253321
Campbell has the same agent as Gibson btw

 

[CarltonTheBear]

I think that depends on just how much slower he is. I don't know a lot about him, but with the speed of the Leafs, a much slower player is really going to stand out. If they are constantly chasing the play, it'll hurt. Is he Nik Ritchie or Joe Thornton slow? Gauthier slow?

Well we have evidence that his skating at least wasn't a detriment to playing with Kane and DeBrincat. That duo was much better with Strome as their C than without him, so I can't imagine it's as bad as those guys you mentioned.

 

[rdowdall]

Murray gets paid 7 million this year and 8 million next year in real dollars, but the Senators can only retain 50% of the cap hit, which would be 3.125, so the Senators would only have to pay 6.25 million over the next 2 years in real dollars instead of the 15 million, or the 10 million.

They retain the same percentage of cap hit and salary.

https://www.capfriendly.com/faq#retained

What is a retained salary transaction/trade

When a team trades a player, they have the option to retain a part of their salary (and cap hit). The team who retains the salary then pays the retained percentage of the salary, and also retains the percentage of the cap hit until the contract expires. The following requirements must be met to retain salary:

The percentage retained cannot exceed 50 percent of the player?s salary (including all bonuses) and Salary Cap Hit.
The same percentage must be retained for both the player?s salary and Salary Cap Hit, and cannot be modified.
All teams are limited to a maximum of 3 retained salary contracts per season.
Teams cannot retain an aggregate amount of more than 15 percent of the Salary Cap Upper Limit.
Players? contracts are limited to 2 retained salary transactions per contract.

Ah, that is correct.  I always get confused on what actually a team has to pay because of the whole "You aren't allowed to trade real dollars" statement that was made a few years back.  But what is listed there actually makes sense.

Still, if you think about it from the Senators position, 3.75 this year and 3.75 next is probably better than 10 million this year as it gives them some more money to play with this year.  I'm not saying that it's make or break to make this deal with the Leafs, but they are getting some advantages by moving the contract and retaining the salary as opposed to just buying him out.  Depends on what the sweetener is. 

 

[Frank E]

I also think that with just having bought out White, Ottawa doesn't want to be known as a place you go to sign a contract only to be bought-out a couple of years later if things don't go as planned...especially given their current cap space.

UFA kryptonite I'd think.

 

[Deebo]

Still, if you think about it from the Senators position, 3.75 this year and 3.75 next is probably better than 10 million this year as it gives them some more money to play with this year. 

The 10M buyout is payable over 4 years at 2.5M a year.

50% retention is 3.5M in year one and 4.0M in year 2.

I'm not saying that it's make or break to make this deal with the Leafs, but they are getting some advantages by moving the contract and retaining the salary as opposed to just buying him out.  Depends on what the sweetener is. 

Yes, depends on the sweetener. I was saying If I am Ottawa, even with the internal budget, the buyout doesn't have enough advantages to include a significant asset while retaining 50%.

 

[rdowdall]

Still, if you think about it from the Senators position, 3.75 this year and 3.75 next is probably better than 10 million this year as it gives them some more money to play with this year. 

The 10M buyout is payable over 4 years at 2.5M a year.

50% retention is 3.5M in year one and 4.0M in year 2.

I'm not saying that it's make or break to make this deal with the Leafs, but they are getting some advantages by moving the contract and retaining the salary as opposed to just buying him out.  Depends on what the sweetener is. 

Yes, depends on the sweetener. I was saying If I am Ottawa, even with the internal budget, the buyout doesn't have enough advantages to include a significant asset while retaining 50%.

Ah well, there you go.  I guess that 2.5 million in savings is the only reason they do it then.  I guess this is just a case of Ottawa being Ottawa.

 

[herman]

The buyout window closes tomorrow and Murray, as far as I can tell, is still injured and not cleared, so he can't be bought out without his permission.

 

[Deebo]

The buyout window closes tomorrow and Murray, as far as I can tell, is still injured and not cleared, so he can't be bought out without his permission.

If he can't be bought out, there's the answer then.

I thought I read one of the reporters tweet that a buyout was an option for the sens.

 

[Deebo]

https://twitter.com/CapFriendly/status/1546602550417309698

 

[Bender]

https://twitter.com/CapFriendly/status/1546602550417309698

Who do they have again? Didn't they trade Vanacek?

 

[herman]

https://twitter.com/CapFriendly/status/1546602550417309698

Who do they have again? Didn't they trade Vanacek?

The day before his wedding too

 

[rdowdall]

https://twitter.com/CapFriendly/status/1546602550417309698

Who do they have again? Didn't they trade Vanacek?

Yeah I don't think they have a goalie right now.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

They have Kuemper, just can't say it yet cause of those pesky tampering rules.

 

[herman]

https://twitter.com/mirtle/status/1546625742066569216
He also had a pretty solid eye injury, which feels like an important thing for goalies to have sorted.

 

[lamajama]

This constant update about Murray is like watching a train wreck in slow motion.

There is a lot I have disagreed with over the years with the Leafs but man, I don't remember ever thinking that an idea like this was THIS bad.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Some guys who didn't get qualifiying offers I'd have interest in:

**Dylan Strome**
Dominik Kubalik
Ilya Samsonov
Sonny Milano
Sam Steel
Danton Heinen
Jonathan Dahlen

 

[Bender]

Some guys who didn't get qualifiying offers I'd have interest in:

**Dylan Strome**
Dominik Kubalik
Ilya Samsonov
Sonny Milano
Sam Steel
Danton Heinen
Jonathan Dahlen

I'd take all those guys if I could. Why the heck not?

 

[CarltonTheBear]

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/nhl-market-buzz-latest-on-flyers-senators-whats-next-for-malkin/

? Toronto will look for another goalie and try to sign Rasmus Sandin with their remaining cap room. One team indicated that even 1B or No. 2 goalies could still do very well in this market, so it won?t be as easy as it sounds. One potential depth target for the Maple Leafs: forechecker extraordinaire Zach Aston-Reese. They could also bring back Denis Malgin from Switzerland.