Auston Matthews
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nutman said:
We should definitely bring back mooning. And smoking during pregnancy. You 70s and 80s people had it right.
Also do we really need seatbelts? I should be able to take my car accident like a man.
I don't smoke nor ever did. But a little Humor, and you young guns start crying. Like I said Wow!!!!.. Although I do have to give you babys some credit, as Holloween is still a go as long as you don't dress up like anyone or anything. Because that would be some kind of harassment toward someone. Dare I say the P word. hahahaha. where did we go so wrong to make so many sensitive people.
Kin
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So to take a break from everyone dunking on Nutman, I thought I'd write something quick about how I haven't really done a good job at expressing my thoughts on this.
To start with, a lot of people who are on Matthews' "side" for lack of a better term are saying things like "Drunken shenanigans aren't a big deal" or "Mooning isn't a big deal" and I think to miss the point here that badly is pretty remarkable. This isn't about the gravity of these things as a crime. This is about Matthews being the kind of person, either through malice or simply ignorance, who thinks it's funny to hassle a security guard. A wealthy young man and his friends messing with someone less powerful than they are because they think it bears no consequence. If you don't understand what that means about him or don't have empathy for the person they did it to, quite frankly, you're a lousy person.
But the difference between me and, I guess, the people who seem really upset by this is that I tend to more or less assume that what this says about Matthews is true of hockey players as a rule and I'm pretty cautiously surprised to learn the opposite, rather than being shocked by this. I get it, some of you buy into Ron MacLean speeches about how Hockey builds Canadian Character or whatever horsecrap they put in Bank commercials on Saturday nights and you watch the Team-Produced Soft Focus videos about how these guys are only ever distracted by hockey by their many hours down at the soup kitchen but look at any group of wealthy young people and you just generally find the same character deficiencies. Music, actors, sports, youtubers now that it's a thing...give young people celebrity and wealth and they almost overwhelmingly turn out to be jerks. Or maybe the money is irrelevant. One of the reasons I moved on from playing sports in high school was I very rarely found myself in a locker room thinking "What a great group of guys this is".
Being a sports fan these days is effectively making a constant moral compromise by having to care about the actions and careers of people who are overwhelmingly likely to be jerks. Players, management, whoever. I don't like what Matthews did but there's nothing new about it. It doesn't really change what I think about him and I don't really think it does for other people. We see it every contract negotiation where the second a player asks for a dollar more than fans would like to see him get he turns from favoured son to greedy, selfish prick. We don't care about these guys as anything other than hockey players and their capacity to help the team win and I don't have the energy to pretend I do.
To start with, a lot of people who are on Matthews' "side" for lack of a better term are saying things like "Drunken shenanigans aren't a big deal" or "Mooning isn't a big deal" and I think to miss the point here that badly is pretty remarkable. This isn't about the gravity of these things as a crime. This is about Matthews being the kind of person, either through malice or simply ignorance, who thinks it's funny to hassle a security guard. A wealthy young man and his friends messing with someone less powerful than they are because they think it bears no consequence. If you don't understand what that means about him or don't have empathy for the person they did it to, quite frankly, you're a lousy person.
But the difference between me and, I guess, the people who seem really upset by this is that I tend to more or less assume that what this says about Matthews is true of hockey players as a rule and I'm pretty cautiously surprised to learn the opposite, rather than being shocked by this. I get it, some of you buy into Ron MacLean speeches about how Hockey builds Canadian Character or whatever horsecrap they put in Bank commercials on Saturday nights and you watch the Team-Produced Soft Focus videos about how these guys are only ever distracted by hockey by their many hours down at the soup kitchen but look at any group of wealthy young people and you just generally find the same character deficiencies. Music, actors, sports, youtubers now that it's a thing...give young people celebrity and wealth and they almost overwhelmingly turn out to be jerks. Or maybe the money is irrelevant. One of the reasons I moved on from playing sports in high school was I very rarely found myself in a locker room thinking "What a great group of guys this is".
Being a sports fan these days is effectively making a constant moral compromise by having to care about the actions and careers of people who are overwhelmingly likely to be jerks. Players, management, whoever. I don't like what Matthews did but there's nothing new about it. It doesn't really change what I think about him and I don't really think it does for other people. We see it every contract negotiation where the second a player asks for a dollar more than fans would like to see him get he turns from favoured son to greedy, selfish prick. We don't care about these guys as anything other than hockey players and their capacity to help the team win and I don't have the energy to pretend I do.
nutman said:
It's not even what he's being charged for.
Also thanks for destroying our housing market and climate/planet.
ZBBM
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Nik the Trik said:
Wow, lunch breaks arrives and I check in again and see you guys have been doing some research. Well done.
Seems like it's still not clear whether the Leafs could suspend him for conduct unbecoming.
As for you, nutman, the mooning thing is purely secondary. He allegedly was with a group of intoxicated males who tried to enter the locked car of a single female. If true, that is very serious, whether you've emerged from your cave or not.
Again, assuming it happened the way it's been presented, Matthews is lucky nobody actually touched her in any way. If they had, his career might well have been over ... and no, I'm not hysterical or exaggerating.
louisstamos
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Zee said:
I'll take "Blame the Victim" for $300, Alex.
Highlander
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The million dollar question? Boxers or Briefs? Lucky he isn't Einstein.