bustaheims
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If Reimer had allowed 3 less goals over the time he's been in net this season, he'd have a top 5 Sv% - right now, 1 goal every 6 starts is the difference between him at the top starters in the league
Goaltending conundrum v3.0-Reimer or Bernier?
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Numbers aside, the thing I've noticed in the games I've watched, is that neither of them are giving up those back breaking, crippling type goals, those complete wiffs that we saw from Gustavsson and Toskala.
Watching the 2 of them I'm reminded of Rhodes and Potvin, I know I've said it before. It's just nice to see a backup play a game and not be a complete void back there, as I've gotten used to the last 15 years.
And I know it's a small sample size, but I'm obviously way off on my assessment of Scrivens. other than playing the puck, he seems to be just fine at the NHL level.
Watching the 2 of them I'm reminded of Rhodes and Potvin, I know I've said it before. It's just nice to see a backup play a game and not be a complete void back there, as I've gotten used to the last 15 years.
And I know it's a small sample size, but I'm obviously way off on my assessment of Scrivens. other than playing the puck, he seems to be just fine at the NHL level.
Highlander
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speaking of the Monster, I was at the Coyotes game in Phoenix on Monday and he let in one soft one in the first and then Detroit fired up and he was pretty steady for the rest of the game. Detroit won 3-2 and look like a pretty good squad.. Glad Gus has a new home with them. By the way Ian White was fantastic.
Rebel_1812
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I remember some people here defended Gustavsson to the death. He isn't that good of a goalie.
leafplasma
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It is nice to be seeing a little praise for Scrivens on here maybe not the fanboy adnauseum praise that I would parlay 
but very nice. Scrivens is a good team guy and oddly almost gives off that vet presence back there. I think having gone through a long playoff run at the AHL level with a lot of the same kids now with the big club will bode well for us and will provide a positive influence on Reimer. It appears the two really are close and I like the tandem going forward in a year that not too much is expected of the Leafs. I would be shocked to see us give up assets for a vet goalie and in turn upsetting the apple cart so to speak.
but very nice. Scrivens is a good team guy and oddly almost gives off that vet presence back there. I think having gone through a long playoff run at the AHL level with a lot of the same kids now with the big club will bode well for us and will provide a positive influence on Reimer. It appears the two really are close and I like the tandem going forward in a year that not too much is expected of the Leafs. I would be shocked to see us give up assets for a vet goalie and in turn upsetting the apple cart so to speak.
moon111
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I think both goalies are great at filling the net, playing the odds. But neither has impressed me with awesome, Hasek-like, athletic lateral movements. They're great goalies if they're protected. But left alone, they're not always going to bail you out. Conclusion, keep both goalies and play defensive hockey, but avoid the shoot-outs.
crazyperfectdevil
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gunnar36 said:
does seem to be his weakness at the moment...hopefully he's working on it
OldTimeHockey
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From watching Reimer's struggles over the last two years and his recent decent play I've noticed a few things.
1) When Reimer struggles it's generally when he's not keeping his upper body as tall as possible when in the butterfly.
2) His strong play shows him continuing to play the butterfly but being taller while doing so. The one thing he hasn't adjusted yet is his closing of the legs when dropping into that butterfly. If players can catch him on the way down, the 5 hole is the place to go(as is the case with all butterfly goalies).
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1) When Reimer struggles it's generally when he's not keeping his upper body as tall as possible when in the butterfly.
2) His strong play shows him continuing to play the butterfly but being taller while doing so. The one thing he hasn't adjusted yet is his closing of the legs when dropping into that butterfly. If players can catch him on the way down, the 5 hole is the place to go(as is the case with all butterfly goalies).
editted because really i shouldn't attempt to post from my tablet. How do people type on those things.
leafplasma
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Lets not get to up in arms though. In his previous two starts to this one he did steal 3 of 4 points from the Bruins and he was the winner last night. He seems to get the wins despite less than stellar play at times as the team seems to rally around him. Having said that I would like to see Scrivens Sat night after a great game against the Panthers. With two fairly unproven goalies heading into the playoffs I think it is important to keep both sharp, plus it is no secret, I like Scrivens 8).
ZBBM
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http://www.thestar.com/sports/leafs/2013/03/28/leafs_canucks_talking_luongo_again_cox.html
As Cox says, we really have Gillis over a barrel if we want to get Luongo. The idea of giving up Bozak to get him is ridiculous, though. I've said from the beginning, the only way I'd trade for Luongo is if we get him for essentially nothing. If we could do that, I'd think seriously about it, especially if we can stick VAN with part of his salary.
Getting Kipper could be OK too, I guess.
As Cox says, we really have Gillis over a barrel if we want to get Luongo. The idea of giving up Bozak to get him is ridiculous, though. I've said from the beginning, the only way I'd trade for Luongo is if we get him for essentially nothing. If we could do that, I'd think seriously about it, especially if we can stick VAN with part of his salary.
Getting Kipper could be OK too, I guess.
OldTimeHockey
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leafplasma said:
Fixed that one for ya
bustaheims
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Andy007 said:
I don't understand it either. I'm not convinced Luongo is enough of an upgrade, now and in the future, to justify taking on that contract. As for Kipper . . . well, he looks like he very well could be on the verge of being done - not to mention the fact he's made it clear he won't report to his new team if he's traded.
Zee
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bustaheims said:
That's due to one game where he gave up 8 goals on 28 shots. Without that game he's .918 in the other 14 games. He's got a ton more experience than Reimer and Scrivens combined so that in of itself is an upgrade. He's proven in the past he can play a ton of hockey (60+ starts a year) and put up solid numbers. He's an upgrade in every way in net except for age.
