Goaltending conundrum

[bustaheims]

So in the back to back coming up, who plays what game? My guess is Gus against the Oilers at home Monday night and Reimer in Winnipeg as a coming home Tuesday night.

My guess is it's the other way around.

 

[leafplasma]

So in the back to back coming up, who plays what game? My guess is Gus against the Oilers at home Monday night and Reimer in Winnipeg as a coming home Tuesday night.

My guess is it's the other way around.

Well be nice to give Reims the extra day off and I am sure he would like to atone for his last loss in Winnipeg which found him benched for a long stretch as Gus got hot.  Edmonton is on a bit of a role as well winning 3 in a row and including a 5-4 win over Detroit last game and an 8-2 win over Chi the game before that.  Not sure I want to put Reimer who is gaining some confidence right now up against that offence which is firing on all cylinders currently.

 

[BlueWhiteBlood]

Is there really a conundrum anymore? I mean, we're paying just north of 3 million for two goalies that are playing very, very well right now. I'd say that we are in a very good situation at present.

I think this is the best possible scenario the Leafs could be in. At some point, especially with continued good play, we'll have to end up paying more for our goaltending, but right now, I think we should get the most out of our excellent situation.

 

[leafplasma]

Is there really a conundrum anymore? I mean, we're paying just north of 3 million for two goalies that are playing very, very well right now. I'd say that we are in a very good situation at present.

I think this is the best possible scenario the Leafs could be in. At some point, especially with continued good play, we'll have to end up paying more for our goaltending, but right now, I think we should get the most out of our excellent situation.

Your right the conundrum right now not that we don't have the goaltending, it involves who to start.

 

[Bullfrog]

So in the back to back coming up, who plays what game? My guess is Gus against the Oilers at home Monday night and Reimer in Winnipeg as a coming home Tuesday night.

My guess is it's the other way around.

Yep. I'm firmly in the Team Gus camp, but you can't deny Reimer the start after his last two games.

 

[maplesyrup]

I'm firmly in the Team Gus camp

Have you considered team nutman? We're recruiting, you know.

 

[Bonsixx]

Leafs coach Ron Wilson said James Reimer would start in goal against Montreal.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=387452

 

[Strangelove]

So much for running with the hot hand.

 

[Bonsixx]

So much for running with the hot hand.

Well, in all fairness, even though I wouldn't have been surprised to see Gustavsson get the start, Reimer was probably the second or third best Leaf against Philly. He made 35 saves and kept them to within a goal in a game they had no business even being in after two periods.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Apparently Wilson hasn't decided his starter for Calgary. I'm praying this is just a media tactic.

 

[Strangelove]

Apparently Wilson hasn't decided his starter for Calgary. I'm praying this is just a media tactic.

At this point I really don't know with him.  I would have thought starting Gus on Saturday was an almost automatic decision, given Reimer's erraticness and Gus comparative consistency (not to mention the fact that probably the most important Swedish hockey player in history was being honoured).  But Wilson seems to be guided by his own metric.  And if we let the results speak for themselves, it appears he does so to a fault.

 

[drummond]

The Leafs should start Gus for a few games, get him settled again and ride with him most of the ret of the season. He is still allowing softies, no doubt about that, but he showed far more consistency than James.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

Apparently Wilson hasn't decided his starter for Calgary. I'm praying this is just a media tactic.

At this point I really don't know with him.  I would have thought starting Gus on Saturday was an almost automatic decision, given Reimer's erraticness and Gus comparative consistency (not to mention the fact that probably the most important Swedish hockey player in history was being honoured).  But Wilson seems to be guided by his own metric.  And if we let the results speak for themselves, it appears he does so to a fault.

I don't know, I find it pretty logical figuring out who is going to start - most people on here seem to guess correctly most times, or it is usually the goalie they think should start.

I would imagine Gus starts.  If I'm wrong I guess throw all that out the window, along with the bathwater (but keep the baby).

 

[Zee]

Apparently Wilson hasn't decided his starter for Calgary. I'm praying this is just a media tactic.

At this point I really don't know with him.  I would have thought starting Gus on Saturday was an almost automatic decision, given Reimer's erraticness and Gus comparative consistency (not to mention the fact that probably the most important Swedish hockey player in history was being honoured).  But Wilson seems to be guided by his own metric.  And if we let the results speak for themselves, it appears he does so to a fault.

I don't know, I find it pretty logical figuring out who is going to start - most people on here seem to guess correctly most times, or it is usually the goalie they think should start.

I would imagine Gus starts.  If I'm wrong I guess throw all that out the window, along with the bathwater (but keep the baby).

I've given up trying to guess what Wilson would do.  He sits Reimer against Winnipeg where even Reimer himself said he was disappointed not to play, then he sits Gustavsson on Mats Sundin night where I would have thought for sure Gus would get the start.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

Apparently Wilson hasn't decided his starter for Calgary. I'm praying this is just a media tactic.

At this point I really don't know with him.  I would have thought starting Gus on Saturday was an almost automatic decision, given Reimer's erraticness and Gus comparative consistency (not to mention the fact that probably the most important Swedish hockey player in history was being honoured).  But Wilson seems to be guided by his own metric.  And if we let the results speak for themselves, it appears he does so to a fault.

I don't know, I find it pretty logical figuring out who is going to start - most people on here seem to guess correctly most times, or it is usually the goalie they think should start.

I would imagine Gus starts.  If I'm wrong I guess throw all that out the window, along with the bathwater (but keep the baby).

I've given up trying to guess what Wilson would do.  He sits Reimer against Winnipeg where even Reimer himself said he was disappointed not to play, then he sits Gustavsson on Mats Sundin night where I would have thought for sure Gus would get the start.

We don't have a clear cut #1, so there are always going to be disagreements and some surprises about who starts until someone breaks away from the other for good.

 

[Zee]

Apparently Wilson hasn't decided his starter for Calgary. I'm praying this is just a media tactic.

At this point I really don't know with him.  I would have thought starting Gus on Saturday was an almost automatic decision, given Reimer's erraticness and Gus comparative consistency (not to mention the fact that probably the most important Swedish hockey player in history was being honoured).  But Wilson seems to be guided by his own metric.  And if we let the results speak for themselves, it appears he does so to a fault.

I don't know, I find it pretty logical figuring out who is going to start - most people on here seem to guess correctly most times, or it is usually the goalie they think should start.

I would imagine Gus starts.  If I'm wrong I guess throw all that out the window, along with the bathwater (but keep the baby).

I've given up trying to guess what Wilson would do.  He sits Reimer against Winnipeg where even Reimer himself said he was disappointed not to play, then he sits Gustavsson on Mats Sundin night where I would have thought for sure Gus would get the start.

We don't have a clear cut #1, so there are always going to be disagreements and some surprises about who starts until someone breaks away from the other for good.

This is true, but his choices for starting goaltender in the last few games has been questionable at best. 

After the back to back shutouts, Reimer wasn't particularly good in the Edmonton win, the Leafs just managed to outscore the Oilers, but then the next time in a game where Reimer would have been motivated to play in his home province he sits. 

Back to backs, ok it's understandable, but Gustavsson starts the Winnipeg game, plays fairly well in only allowing 2 goals and makes a number of big stops in the 3rd to give the Leafs a shot at tying up the game.

Wilson then goes BACK to Reimer, who once again has an average game at best in a loss. 

Then we have last Saturday.  We have 2 recent Reimer starts which are average, (both losses), a Gustavsson start which was good in a loss, and it's Mats Sundin night, a Swedish hero.  Who do you start the swedish goalie was was fairly good in his last start or the non swedish goalie who's been fighting the puck the last 2 games?

I suppose Wilson was playing a "hunch" in starting Reimer, his hunch was 100% wrong.

 

[lc9]

Wilson has no idea what he is doing with the goalies, he appears to me he is just pulling names out of a hat. 

I like RW quite a bit when he is just shooting the shit with reporters or during the off-season, but when it comes to running the Leafs, he is lost.

 

[Optimus Reimer]

Apparently Wilson hasn't decided his starter for Calgary. I'm praying this is just a media tactic.

At this point I really don't know with him.  I would have thought starting Gus on Saturday was an almost automatic decision, given Reimer's erraticness and Gus comparative consistency (not to mention the fact that probably the most important Swedish hockey player in history was being honoured).  But Wilson seems to be guided by his own metric.  And if we let the results speak for themselves, it appears he does so to a fault.

I don't know, I find it pretty logical figuring out who is going to start - most people on here seem to guess correctly most times, or it is usually the goalie they think should start.

I would imagine Gus starts.  If I'm wrong I guess throw all that out the window, along with the bathwater (but keep the baby).

I've given up trying to guess what Wilson would do.  He sits Reimer against Winnipeg where even Reimer himself said he was disappointed not to play, then he sits Gustavsson on Mats Sundin night where I would have thought for sure Gus would get the start.

We don't have a clear cut #1, so there are always going to be disagreements and some surprises about who starts until someone breaks away from the other for good.

This is true, but his choices for starting goaltender in the last few games has been questionable at best. 

After the back to back shutouts, Reimer wasn't particularly good in the Edmonton win, the Leafs just managed to outscore the Oilers, but then the next time in a game where Reimer would have been motivated to play in his home province he sits. 

Back to backs, ok it's understandable, but Gustavsson starts the Winnipeg game, plays fairly well in only allowing 2 goals and makes a number of big stops in the 3rd to give the Leafs a shot at tying up the game.

Wilson then goes BACK to Reimer, who once again has an average game at best in a loss. 

Then we have last Saturday.  We have 2 recent Reimer starts which are average, (both losses), a Gustavsson start which was good in a loss, and it's Mats Sundin night, a Swedish hero.  Who do you start the swedish goalie was was fairly good in his last start or the non swedish goalie who's been fighting the puck the last 2 games?

I suppose Wilson was playing a "hunch" in starting Reimer, his hunch was 100% wrong.

It didn't matter who they put in net Saturday.  The Leafs effort was non existent, and someone should have told them they had a game that night.  Against the Flames, it should be the Monster.

 

[BC Buds Fan]

I'm pretty sure you have to balance out the "go with the hot hand" theory with a reluctance to sit anyone too long.  I think they want Reimer to be the #1 but he hasn't been able to carry the load, so they give Gus the ball for a bit....but you don't want to sit Reimer for too long, you have to get him in there to help him get into a groove.

Boy, that Gomez hit really derailed things.  Imagine where we'd be if Reimer had had a decent carryover season from last year!

 

[L K]

Apparently Wilson hasn't decided his starter for Calgary. I'm praying this is just a media tactic.

At this point I really don't know with him.  I would have thought starting Gus on Saturday was an almost automatic decision, given Reimer's erraticness and Gus comparative consistency (not to mention the fact that probably the most important Swedish hockey player in history was being honoured).  But Wilson seems to be guided by his own metric.  And if we let the results speak for themselves, it appears he does so to a fault.

I don't know, I find it pretty logical figuring out who is going to start - most people on here seem to guess correctly most times, or it is usually the goalie they think should start.

I would imagine Gus starts.  If I'm wrong I guess throw all that out the window, along with the bathwater (but keep the baby).

I've given up trying to guess what Wilson would do.  He sits Reimer against Winnipeg where even Reimer himself said he was disappointed not to play, then he sits Gustavsson on Mats Sundin night where I would have thought for sure Gus would get the start.

We don't have a clear cut #1, so there are always going to be disagreements and some surprises about who starts until someone breaks away from the other for good.

This is true, but his choices for starting goaltender in the last few games has been questionable at best. 

After the back to back shutouts, Reimer wasn't particularly good in the Edmonton win, the Leafs just managed to outscore the Oilers, but then the next time in a game where Reimer would have been motivated to play in his home province he sits. 

Back to backs, ok it's understandable, but Gustavsson starts the Winnipeg game, plays fairly well in only allowing 2 goals and makes a number of big stops in the 3rd to give the Leafs a shot at tying up the game.

Wilson then goes BACK to Reimer, who once again has an average game at best in a loss. 

Then we have last Saturday.  We have 2 recent Reimer starts which are average, (both losses), a Gustavsson start which was good in a loss, and it's Mats Sundin night, a Swedish hero.  Who do you start the swedish goalie was was fairly good in his last start or the non swedish goalie who's been fighting the puck the last 2 games?

I suppose Wilson was playing a "hunch" in starting Reimer, his hunch was 100% wrong.

Reimer has now started 5 of 7 since the All-Star Break.  His last two weren't all that good.  He had the two big shutouts but his last two starts weren't all that great.  Gus didn't have a great game coming out of the break and then the Leafs no-showed against Winnipeg where he played well (although he was fighting the puck) in a 2-1 loss.  I don't see how Reimer has entitlement to the lionshare of the starts after the month Gustavsson put up in January.  This is a team where no goaltender should have any form of guaranteed favoouratism but I think that Wilson is really biased toward giving Reimer the starts.