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Goaltending conundrum

Goose has clearly been the better goalie, it's silly to go throw away potential wins in allowing Reimer to start.  I've heard Wilson and Goose are not exaclty best pals for whatever reason.. It's pretty obvious that is choice of goalie on a game to game basis is effected by that..
 
Hoping RW bucks the trend and gives Gus the start Saturday.  Reimer looked shaky again despite beating Edmonton Wednesday night.  Put some confidence in Gus by starting him Saturday and let him run with it.  Gus always seems to be given a game in the middle of a slide like the Cgy game.  Sit back analyze the season and decide who has been more important for you in this playoff run.  Easy answer Gus so reward him, call him your number one and enough with the flip flopping. 
 
Chazz-Micheal Liles said:
The media is sort of right on this one. We got 24 games left to play and we still don't know who is number 1.

Yes, sort of right.  It really wouldn't matter who is #1 if both could go in and give a consistent performance whenever called upon.  Both need to stop giving up one or more bad goals a game.  Other teams have this problem as well and are in the playoff picture (Van, Phi), so its not as if the Leafs MUST have one of the two become the main guy for them to make it in. 
 
Chazz-Micheal Liles said:
The media is sort of right on this one. We got 24 games left to play and we still don't know who is number 1.

To have the 10th or 11th worst goals allowed in the conference does not merit either goalie to be the #1.  It would be nice if one goalie would step up, but so far both goalies have shown periods of greatness, and periods of mediocrity.

However, part of the problem is what is in front of the goalies.  When the team fails to clear the puck out, not once, but several times, it puts pressure on the goalie to make the extra saves that would not have to be made if the puck was cleared out the first time.  Or when the defensive coverage is so weak that the other team gets additional scoring chances.  Eventually the percentages catches up and after so many extra scoring chances for the other team, eventually the puck will go in.

On the flip side, a decent goalie should be able to make those saves, but I wouldn't expect the goalie to stop them all.  The goalie should not have to make those extra saves just because the players in front of him are not capable of clearing the puck or covering the other players properly.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Paul Hendrick confirms Reimer as the starter for Saturday. Poor Gus.

I don't really understand that, though I haven't been watching too many games recently, it seems like Reimer's been losing.  Wasn't it supposed to be "win and you're in"?

edit: seems he played the Edm game and won, whereas Jonas lost the Cgy game.  Reimer makes sense to me based on "win and you're in".
 
I doubt Gus re-signs with the Leafs. And if he does he definitely won't be giving any hometown discounts. It seems like most of the fans here can see Gus has been better than Reimer this year, but for some reason the Leafs Brass doesn't feel the same way.
 
leafplasma said:
CarltonTheBear said:
Paul Hendrick confirms Reimer as the starter for Saturday. Poor Gus.

Beautiful just effin gorgeous.

He wins and it's the right choice. If he loses then he has no idea how to coach. They both have nearly identical stats, I don't know how one is the right choice and one is the wrong choice.

Reminds me of Led Zeppelin: The Song Remains the Same.
 
There's also this to consider - Gustavsson's career numbers (even if it's only 2 games) against Vancouver are awful. Reimer against Vancouver is a blank slate.
 
BrownRolo said:
I doubt Gus re-signs with the Leafs. And if he does he definitely won't be giving any hometown discounts. It seems like most of the fans here can see Gus has been better than Reimer this year, but for some reason the Leafs Brass doesn't feel the same way.

I think, other than a brief stretch here or there, both of them have pretty much sucked.
 
Bender said:
leafplasma said:
CarltonTheBear said:
Paul Hendrick confirms Reimer as the starter for Saturday. Poor Gus.

Beautiful just effin gorgeous.

He wins and it's the right choice. If he loses then he has no idea how to coach. They both have nearly identical stats, I don't know how one is the right choice and one is the wrong choice.

Reminds me of Led Zeppelin: The Song Remains the Same.

Well sure if you look at the overall stats yes your right.  I like to look at it that Gus started slow and then he caught fire and seen his job taken away just when he was righting his ship.  Gus clearly is a better goalie when he is playing and not getting a start here and there.  From past history and albeit we don't have much history to go on Gus needs to be a starter.  Reimer looks like he could serve as a back up as he seems to be able to come in after an extended lay off and perform ok.
 
Question: If you used a time machine to go back to 1993 to get Pat Burns and made him the coach, would this tread exist?
 
At this point, I'd definitely run Gus out for 2 or 3 in a row, at least.  Reimer has just looked really tentative and unconfident.  May be the soph slump, may be this is just him, but for now, Gus just plain looks better.

It'd double as a chance to definitively decide Gus' future with team, as well.
 
moon111 said:
Question: If you used a time machine to go back to 1993 to get Pat Burns and made him the coach, would this tread exist?

I think so. Playing a defensive system isnt going to prevent some of the goals these goalies let in. The Leafs just dont have a number one goaltender.
 
Mike1 said:
I think so. Playing a defensive system isnt going to prevent some of the goals these goalies let in. The Leafs just dont have a number one goaltender.

Or, you know, it would, because teams wouldn't be so confident they can create scoring chances, pick up rebounds and easily get the puck back, so they wouldn't take any opportunity just to throw the puck on net. Also, behind a better defensive system, you'd see goalies with more confidence that would be playing more aggressively and making the stops on some of these perceived soft goals. They wouldn't be getting caught out of position anywhere close to as much, because their defence wouldn't be putting them in as many situations where they're prone to be caught out of position. There's be less odd man rushes, less players left untouched in front of the net, less 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th chances, etc. A better defensive system, if properly executed (which is the real issue, as far as I'm concerned), would change everything.
 

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