Justin Schultz

[Champ Kind]

This is really too much coverage for what we're dealing with.  Good grief, he hasn't played an NHL game yet.

Yes, I realise I've been following and reading this thread closely....

 

[Corn Flake]

Ok, three then. And apparently Howson isn't one of them.

Howsen was actually the first to call this morning.  Schultz's agent laughed and hung up when he heard who was on the other end.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Ok, three then. And apparently Howson isn't one of them.

Howsen was actually the first to call this morning.  Schultz's agent laughed and hung up when he heard who was on the other end.

It didn't help that he was trying to offer all of Garth Snow's draft picks.

 

[bustaheims]

CKNW 980 in Vancouver and a Province writer are saying he's signing with
the Canucks. I #$%^&*() hope not.

He might, but, when they were reporting this, Schultz hadn't begun to seriously field offers from other teams.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

CKNW 980 in Vancouver and a Province writer are saying he's signing with
the Canucks. I #$%^&*() hope not.

He might, but, when they were reporting this, Schultz hadn't begun to seriously field offers from other teams.

I don't think we'll ever see a radio station break news like this anymore. If it actually happened a legit source on twitter would have broken it.

 

[bustaheims]

I don't think we'll ever see a radio station break news like this anymore. If it actually happened a legit source on twitter would have broken it.

Yeah. Radio stations have really become unreliable rumour mongers when it comes to this kind of stuff.

 

[Fanatic]

Mark Spector Sports‏@SportsnetSpec
#Oilers will present to Justin Schultz. When? "We don't know yet. "We hope to take a good swing at (Schultz). We have our ideas how we can present a pretty opportunity for him." - Tambellini.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

Do the fans really need to know the exact time they will present an offer to him?

Since Gillis is in TO maybe we can take Luongo off his hands cheaply and then swipe Schultz from under him too.  Then maybe someone can drive through a puddle while he's on the sidewalk.

 

[Redleaf]

I can't figure out if shipping Schenn to Philly was an indication Burke is making room for Schultz or if picking Rielly was an indication he's planning on moving forward without him.

That'll be my reasoning on Sunday for either scenario. ;D

 

[jonlleafs]

I can't figure out if shipping Schenn to Philly was an indication Burke is making room for Schultz or if picking Rielly was an indication he's planning on moving forward without him.

That'll be my reasoning on Sunday for either scenario. ;D

Well Rielly is really 2-3yrs away so I don't think his selection was an indication of Schenn being moved.  However, it does open up a spot potentially but I still like to get Franson in there more regularly.  I think he has a lot of upside still and he wasn't given enough of a chance last year with all the press box sitting. 

 

[Redleaf]

I can't figure out if shipping Schenn to Philly was an indication Burke is making room for Schultz or if picking Rielly was an indication he's planning on moving forward without him.

That'll be my reasoning on Sunday for either scenario. ;D

Well Rielly is really 2-3yrs away so I don't think his selection was an indication of Schenn being moved.  However, it does open up a spot potentially but I still like to get Franson in there more regularly.  I think he has a lot of upside still and he wasn't given enough of a chance last year with all the press box sitting.

If Schultz is signed he starts with the Leafs NEXT year, otherwise he goes to Edmonton. While he still would be considered a rookie, he's not a kid at 22 yrs. old.

 

[jonlleafs]

I can't figure out if shipping Schenn to Philly was an indication Burke is making room for Schultz or if picking Rielly was an indication he's planning on moving forward without him.

That'll be my reasoning on Sunday for either scenario. ;D

Well Rielly is really 2-3yrs away so I don't think his selection was an indication of Schenn being moved.  However, it does open up a spot potentially but I still like to get Franson in there more regularly.  I think he has a lot of upside still and he wasn't given enough of a chance last year with all the press box sitting.

If Schultz is signed he starts with the Leafs NEXT year, otherwise he goes to Edmonton.

I would think they would give Schultz every opportunity to make the team as a stipulation that he signs with us.  Even going so far as to overlook some gaffes he would make as a rookie.  However, if he is too raw, I wouldn't be surprised if he is sent down.  I think one d-man still needs to be shipped out if we take on Schultz, but injuries will factor in and it may be ok to keep an extra body or 2.

My ideal top 6 would probably be like this:

Phaneuf - Gunnarsson
Franson - Gardiner
Liles - Schultz/Komi
Holzer/Komi

Only gripe I have about trading Schenn and adding Schultz is that we are less gritty in the backend now.  This is a reason why I'd want to keep Komisarek around if he can find his game again.

 

[Corn Flake]

My ideal top 6 would probably be like this:

Phaneuf - Gunnarsson
Franson - Gardiner
Liles - Schultz/Komi
Holzer/Komi

Only gripe I have about trading Schenn and adding Schultz is that we are less gritty in the backend now.  This is a reason why I'd want to keep Komisarek around if he can find his game again.

Just to note, Schultz and Franson play the right side, Gunarsson and Gardiner the left side. Holzer played the right side in the AHL as well.  So if this signing happens, Burke has a log-jam on the right side. I think he's going to trade Franson, 100% sure he will if he signs Schultz.

The depth chart with no trades or signings would be:

Gunarsson / Phaneuf
Gardiner / Schultz
Liles / Komi
--- Franson
--- Holzer

The backlog on the right side is substantial.

 

[LuncheonMeat]

I thought this was an interesting note from the dreaded HockeyBuzz's Oilers blogger today:

It appears Schultz is in no panic to meet with Oilers management, and that's a bad sign. He was to meet with Taylor Hall yesterday, but got sidetracked and the meeting didn't occur. It sounds like the Calgary Flames asked to meet with Schultz, but were turned down, as he has no interest. From what I understand, the Schultz camp does plan on meeting with the Oilers, but at this time a different team is the priority.

His speculation is that the team of choice is the Canucks, but I think he's likely just pulling that out of his nether regions.

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Richard-Cloutier/Justin-Schultz-Update---625pm-EST/131/45251

 

[Omallley]

My ideal top 6 would probably be like this:

Phaneuf - Gunnarsson
Franson - Gardiner
Liles - Schultz/Komi
Holzer/Komi

Only gripe I have about trading Schenn and adding Schultz is that we are less gritty in the backend now.  This is a reason why I'd want to keep Komisarek around if he can find his game again.

Just to note, Schultz and Franson play the right side, Gunarsson and Gardiner the left side. Holzer played the right side in the AHL as well.  So if this signing happens, Burke has a log-jam on the right side. I think he's going to trade Franson, 100% sure he will if he signs Schultz.

The depth chart with no trades or signings would be:

Gunarsson / Phaneuf
Gardiner / Schultz
Liles / Komi
--- Franson
--- Holzer

The backlog on the right side is substantial.

I'm coming at this completely ignorant of Schultz other than he's this year's Matt Gilroy, but is he actually expected to be a top 4 defender going into next season?

 

[Frank E]

My ideal top 6 would probably be like this:

Phaneuf - Gunnarsson
Franson - Gardiner
Liles - Schultz/Komi
Holzer/Komi

Only gripe I have about trading Schenn and adding Schultz is that we are less gritty in the backend now.  This is a reason why I'd want to keep Komisarek around if he can find his game again.

Just to note, Schultz and Franson play the right side, Gunarsson and Gardiner the left side. Holzer played the right side in the AHL as well.  So if this signing happens, Burke has a log-jam on the right side. I think he's going to trade Franson, 100% sure he will if he signs Schultz.

The depth chart with no trades or signings would be:

Gunarsson / Phaneuf
Gardiner / Schultz
Liles / Komi
--- Franson
--- Holzer

The backlog on the right side is substantial.

I'm coming at this completely ignorant of Schultz other than he's this year's Matt Gilroy, but is he actually expected to be a top 4 defender going into next season?

I don't think anyone really knows, but he's advertised as being "NHL ready".

 

[jonlleafs]

My ideal top 6 would probably be like this:

Phaneuf - Gunnarsson
Franson - Gardiner
Liles - Schultz/Komi
Holzer/Komi

Only gripe I have about trading Schenn and adding Schultz is that we are less gritty in the backend now.  This is a reason why I'd want to keep Komisarek around if he can find his game again.

Just to note, Schultz and Franson play the right side, Gunarsson and Gardiner the left side. Holzer played the right side in the AHL as well.  So if this signing happens, Burke has a log-jam on the right side. I think he's going to trade Franson, 100% sure he will if he signs Schultz.

The depth chart with no trades or signings would be:

Gunarsson / Phaneuf
Gardiner / Schultz
Liles / Komi
--- Franson
--- Holzer

The backlog on the right side is substantial.

I'm coming at this completely ignorant of Schultz other than he's this year's Matt Gilroy, but is he actually expected to be a top 4 defender going into next season?

I don't think anyone really knows, but he's advertised as being "NHL ready".

Physically maybe he might be NHL ready but you can't really say for certain.  He's been playing at a much lower level than the NHL.  The pace of a college game is much slower with less talented guys.  So for people to make that statement seems out of left field to me.  Until he suits up in a real NHL game, you can't really say he's NHL ready.

 

[cw]

My ideal top 6 would probably be like this:

Phaneuf - Gunnarsson
Franson - Gardiner
Liles - Schultz/Komi
Holzer/Komi

Only gripe I have about trading Schenn and adding Schultz is that we are less gritty in the backend now.  This is a reason why I'd want to keep Komisarek around if he can find his game again.

Just to note, Schultz and Franson play the right side, Gunarsson and Gardiner the left side. Holzer played the right side in the AHL as well.  So if this signing happens, Burke has a log-jam on the right side. I think he's going to trade Franson, 100% sure he will if he signs Schultz.

The depth chart with no trades or signings would be:

Gunarsson / Phaneuf
Gardiner / Schultz
Liles / Komi
--- Franson
--- Holzer

The backlog on the right side is substantial.

I'm coming at this completely ignorant of Schultz other than he's this year's Matt Gilroy, but is he actually expected to be a top 4 defender going into next season?

I would say not really. He's a bit of a light weight - 163lbs going into his draft year - supposedly filled out to 185 as of his current college stats. From the videos I looked at of Gardiner back when, Shultz is very offensively gifted, can skate with the puck and jump into the play - arguably more offensively talented than Gardiner. His stock rose more after he was drafted than Gardiner and he was arguably higher on the Ducks depth chart when Gardiner was traded amd more highly regarded within US College hockey. Pairing him with Gardiner, as much as it might sound great from their college years, would probably be quite dicey defensively in the NHL.

The Leafs need talent and Schultz has lots of that offensively. But the Leafs seemed stacked with offensive dmen - most of whom can't PK. With Carlyle moving towards a more defensive and physical system and that offensive D depth the Leafs have, along with Schultz's home being in BC, I do wonder if Edmonton or Vancouver are the more probable fit.

EDIT: for clarity, he could be used as a PP specialist with some 5 on 5 ice time and with that, maybe hit top 4 minutes if he's got a good defensive partner to cover him. He seems very unlikely to step in and play in all situations and be the guy who is carrying his partner defensively.

 

[Kin]

Physically maybe he might be NHL ready but you can't really say for certain.  He's been playing at a much lower level than the NHL.  The pace of a college game is much slower with less talented guys.  So for people to make that statement seems out of left field to me.  Until he suits up in a real NHL game, you can't really say he's NHL ready.

You can't say for sure, no, but every year guys get drafted on the basis of being "NHL ready" and it typically seems as though scouts do a good job at making that determination. Landeskog, for instance, was called the most NHL ready prospect in the draft and he was a very good NHL player the following year.

For a 22 year old, I figure that read gets a little bit easier as you have a better sense of his physical maturity.

 

[Frank E]

What would be his status after the inevitable 2 year contract he signs expires?  UFA or RFA?