Justin Schultz

[Kin]

Sure, but it's not just about playing together. As long as their both in the Leafs' organization, they'll both be playing for Toronto based teams, which means they'll have the opportunity to live together, hang out with each other, etc. It's the overall situation where the relationship is a factor, not just whether they'll end up playing on the same team at the same time all season.

That's where it starts getting very tenuous to me. Hockey players are pretty busy during the season and often on the road. I don't know if either guy wants a roommate. If they want, they can hangout all off-season together. The idea that Schultz would make a very important decision re: his career with potentially millions of dollars at stake with getting to hang out with a buddy as a major factor doesn't ring true.

Additionally, while I agree with your point about familiarity as a general I'd bet elite hockey players are more accustomed than most to having to get to know their co-workers/teammates quickly and making friends.

 

[Kin]

So, essentially you're agreeable to the point being made, but only when it applies to siblings.

No. Like I said, check out my response to busta.

 

[Redleaf]

Sure, but it's not just about playing together. As long as their both in the Leafs' organization, they'll both be playing for Toronto based teams, which means they'll have the opportunity to live together, hang out with each other, etc. It's the overall situation where the relationship is a factor, not just whether they'll end up playing on the same team at the same time all season.

That's where it starts getting very tenuous to me. Hockey players are pretty busy during the season and often on the road. I don't know if either guy wants a roommate. If they want, they can hangout all off-season together. The idea that Schultz would make a very important decision re: his career with potentially millions of dollars at stake with getting to hang out with a buddy as a major factor doesn't ring true.

Additionally, while I agree with your point about familiarity as a general I'd bet elite hockey players are more accustomed than most to having to get to know their co-workers/friends quickly and making friends.

Fair enough. If the Leafs sign him and he says that getting the chance to play with Gardiner again was a factor in his decision to come to Toronto, well then....

 

[Kin]

Fair enough. If the Leafs sign him and he says that getting the chance to play with Gardiner again was a factor in his decision to come to Toronto, well then....

Hey, nobody will happier if I'm wrong than me. I sincerely hope he says he signed with the Leafs so he and Jake Gardiner can stay up all night eating pizza and playing Mystery Date.

 

[Redleaf]

Fair enough. If the Leafs sign him and he says that getting the chance to play with Gardiner again was a factor in his decision to come to Toronto, well then....

Hey, nobody will happier if I'm wrong than me. I sincerely hope he says he signed with the Leafs so he and Jake Gardiner can stay up all night eating pizza and playing Mystery Date.

See. Thats another area where you and I differ.

 

[Corn Flake]

Fair enough. If the Leafs sign him and he says that getting the chance to play with Gardiner again was a factor in his decision to come to Toronto, well then....

Hey, nobody will happier if I'm wrong than me. I sincerely hope he says he signed with the Leafs so he and Jake Gardiner can stay up all night eating pizza and playing Mystery Date.

They serve pizza at Zanzibar now?  :-X

 

[Kin]

They serve pizza at Zanzibar now?  :-X

I doubt it but there's an Amato's a couple blocks north of that and...I mean, what's Zanzibar?

 

[Rebel_1812]

They say Edmonton has the inside track because they have little depth on defense and look ready to compete soon.  I hope Toronto gets him but I'm not optimistic.

 

[Corn Flake]

They say Edmonton has the inside track because they have little depth on defense and look ready to compete soon.  I hope Toronto gets him but I'm not optimistic.

Or he could go somewhere like Detroit, join a winning organization and start playing lots of ice time for a winner right away, probably alongside Ryan Suter, and avoid the risk that Edmonton isn't very well managed and don't quite seem to know what they are doing.

 

[SchenNeuf]

They say Edmonton has the inside track because they have little depth on defense and look ready to compete soon.  I hope Toronto gets him but I'm not optimistic.

Or he could go somewhere like Detroit, join a winning organization and start playing lots of ice time for a winner right away, probably alongside Ryan Suter, and avoid the risk that Edmonton isn't very well managed and don't quite seem to know what they are doing.

Detroit has a history of taking time with their prospects and not rushing them into the NHL. I really don't think he'll end up there.

With Edmonton, it makes sense that there will be opportunity to play, but Edmonton still has to deal with the fact that it's an arm-pit of a city where players just don't seem to want to go. 

Of all the teams out there, I'd be most worried about Vancouver.  He may have to fight a bit harder to crack the lineup, but there is some space on the blueline.  He is also a BC boy, so it might be appealling to be close to home.

 

[rdowdall]

They say Edmonton has the inside track because they have little depth on defense and look ready to compete soon.  I hope Toronto gets him but I'm not optimistic.

Or he could go somewhere like Detroit, join a winning organization and start playing lots of ice time for a winner right away, probably alongside Ryan Suter, and avoid the risk that Edmonton isn't very well managed and don't quite seem to know what they are doing.

Detroit has a history of taking time with their prospects and not rushing them into the NHL. I really don't think he'll end up there.

With Edmonton, it makes sense that there will be opportunity to play, but Edmonton still has to deal with the fact that it's an arm-pit of a city where players just don't seem to want to go. 

Of all the teams out there, I'd be most worried about Vancouver.  He may have to fight a bit harder to crack the lineup, but there is some space on the blueline.  He is also a BC boy, so it might be appealling to be close to home.

Don't rule out Ottawa either.  Plenty of space on their blueline.  He would have an opportunity to start on a team that seems to be on the rise.

 

[SchenNeuf]

They say Edmonton has the inside track because they have little depth on defense and look ready to compete soon.  I hope Toronto gets him but I'm not optimistic.

Or he could go somewhere like Detroit, join a winning organization and start playing lots of ice time for a winner right away, probably alongside Ryan Suter, and avoid the risk that Edmonton isn't very well managed and don't quite seem to know what they are doing.

Detroit has a history of taking time with their prospects and not rushing them into the NHL. I really don't think he'll end up there.

With Edmonton, it makes sense that there will be opportunity to play, but Edmonton still has to deal with the fact that it's an arm-pit of a city where players just don't seem to want to go. 

Of all the teams out there, I'd be most worried about Vancouver.  He may have to fight a bit harder to crack the lineup, but there is some space on the blueline.  He is also a BC boy, so it might be appealling to be close to home.

Don't rule out Ottawa either.  Plenty of space on their blueline.  He would have an opportunity to start on a team that seems to be on the rise.

Agreed.  I would say Toronto and Ottawa are likely about equal with respect to what they can offer.

Of all the Canadian teams, I would say the Flames are really the only team that doesn't have much of a chance, as I think they're doing everything they can do to avoid the inevitable rebuild that will be required there.  When Iggy and Kipper leave, they are going to be hurting and I just don't see a young UFA seeing them as an attractive place to play right now.

 

[rdowdall]

They say Edmonton has the inside track because they have little depth on defense and look ready to compete soon.  I hope Toronto gets him but I'm not optimistic.

Or he could go somewhere like Detroit, join a winning organization and start playing lots of ice time for a winner right away, probably alongside Ryan Suter, and avoid the risk that Edmonton isn't very well managed and don't quite seem to know what they are doing.

Detroit has a history of taking time with their prospects and not rushing them into the NHL. I really don't think he'll end up there.

With Edmonton, it makes sense that there will be opportunity to play, but Edmonton still has to deal with the fact that it's an arm-pit of a city where players just don't seem to want to go. 

Of all the teams out there, I'd be most worried about Vancouver.  He may have to fight a bit harder to crack the lineup, but there is some space on the blueline.  He is also a BC boy, so it might be appealling to be close to home.

Don't rule out Ottawa either.  Plenty of space on their blueline.  He would have an opportunity to start on a team that seems to be on the rise.

Agreed.  I would say Toronto and Ottawa are likely about equal with respect to what they can offer.

Of all the Canadian teams, I would say the Flames are really the only team that doesn't have much of a chance, as I think they're doing everything they can do to avoid the inevitable rebuild that will be required there.  When Iggy and Kipper leave, they are going to be hurting and I just don't see a young UFA seeing them as an attractive place to play right now.

Also, for those that say he played with Gardiner, he also played with Derek Stepan and Ryan McDonough of the Rangers, so he could go their as well.

 

[Zee]

They say Edmonton has the inside track because they have little depth on defense and look ready to compete soon.  I hope Toronto gets him but I'm not optimistic.

Or he could go somewhere like Detroit, join a winning organization and start playing lots of ice time for a winner right away, probably alongside Ryan Suter, and avoid the risk that Edmonton isn't very well managed and don't quite seem to know what they are doing.

Detroit has a history of taking time with their prospects and not rushing them into the NHL. I really don't think he'll end up there.

With Edmonton, it makes sense that there will be opportunity to play, but Edmonton still has to deal with the fact that it's an arm-pit of a city where players just don't seem to want to go. 

Of all the teams out there, I'd be most worried about Vancouver.  He may have to fight a bit harder to crack the lineup, but there is some space on the blueline.  He is also a BC boy, so it might be appealling to be close to home.

Don't rule out Ottawa either.  Plenty of space on their blueline.  He would have an opportunity to start on a team that seems to be on the rise.

Agreed.  I would say Toronto and Ottawa are likely about equal with respect to what they can offer.

Of all the Canadian teams, I would say the Flames are really the only team that doesn't have much of a chance, as I think they're doing everything they can do to avoid the inevitable rebuild that will be required there.  When Iggy and Kipper leave, they are going to be hurting and I just don't see a young UFA seeing them as an attractive place to play right now.

Also, for those that say he played with Gardiner, he also played with Derek Stepan and Ryan McDonough of the Rangers, so he could go their as well.

Yeah but Gardiner is his BFF.

 

[Corn Flake]

Yeah but Gardiner is his BFF.

We hold the bff trump card.  NOTHING CAN STOP US NOW HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA1

But surriously, it is a helpful card to have when all 30 teams can make the exact same contract offer.

 

[Champ Kind]

I think there's going to be more that goes into his decision than strict playing time.  It seemed sort of odd that Scrivens chose to sign with the Leafs after the Monster and Rynnas had signed.  The media was throttling Allaire to the point that it seemed like Toronto was the last place any goalie would want to play.  But Scrivens signed anyway, and indicated it was because of the internal competition and well-respected guys like Burke and Allaire.  So far, it's seemed to work out fairly well for him.  I think Schultz will carefully assess the landscape and make an informed decision, too.  Not one simply based on where he'll get the most playing time.

 

[Kaberle15]

Wasn't today the Schultz and Toronto day ?

Any udate on that ?

Nos without Schenn the Leafs have a top 4 spot open...

 

[cw]

Wasn't today the Schultz and Toronto day ?

Any udate on that ?

Nos without Schenn the Leafs have a top 4 spot open...

I think he arrives in Toronto today to meet with his agents. Tomorrow, they start to review offers, etc. I think he has to wait until July 1 to officially sign with a team other than the Ducks..

 

[jonlleafs]

I think there's going to be more that goes into his decision than strict playing time.  It seemed sort of odd that Scrivens chose to sign with the Leafs after the Monster and Rynnas had signed.  The media was throttling Allaire to the point that it seemed like Toronto was the last place any goalie would want to play.  But Scrivens signed anyway, and indicated it was because of the internal competition and well-respected guys like Burke and Allaire.  So far, it's seemed to work out fairly well for him.  I think Schultz will carefully assess the landscape and make an informed decision, too.  Not one simply based on where he'll get the most playing time.

I think we have a good shot because he can look at all the college kids that signed before with the Leafs and see how they have been given every shot possible to make the team and stick.  i.e. Bozak, Gardiner

 

[Corn Flake]

The Schenn trade timing is interesting... does open a spot on the right side, as Gardiner's partner no less.



Cody Franson probably yelled "YEAAHH" when the Schenn deal happened.  He likely soon will be grumpy again.