Kadri "made available" -according to 2 teams
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Highlander
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Kadri may have to switch to winger at some point probably when Bolland gets back.
Redleaf
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Nik the Trik said:
I'm sure there are many exceptions to the rule out there. Gretzky comes to mind as being an average defender. I think it's a general rule that superstar offensive players can be exempt from being defensively strong players. I don't think you're really comparing Kadri to Malkin though, are you?
BlueWhiteBlood
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Highlander said:
I think it's an option, mostly because of Kadri's struggles in the face-off circle.
I wouldn't trade Kadri for Stastny (because he's a pending UFA) or ROR (mostly because its sideways).
As long as Bozak and Kessel and Carlyle are on this team, he's at best the 2nd line centre. I don't see anything wrong with Kadri being your 2nd line centre who scores roughly 55 or so points for the next 5-10 years. What's wrong with that? Especially given the fact that he has the potential to be a 70+ guy once he has his game all settled (which is still probably another 2-3 years away). He's still young and hasn't even played 150 games yet. I don't mind continuing to be patient with Kadri.
Just because he's not a bona fide or prototypical number 1 centre doesn't mean you trade him...you still need a 2nd and 3rd line centre, and I don't mind it being Kadri.
As long as Bozak and Kessel and Carlyle are on this team, he's at best the 2nd line centre. I don't see anything wrong with Kadri being your 2nd line centre who scores roughly 55 or so points for the next 5-10 years. What's wrong with that? Especially given the fact that he has the potential to be a 70+ guy once he has his game all settled (which is still probably another 2-3 years away). He's still young and hasn't even played 150 games yet. I don't mind continuing to be patient with Kadri.
Just because he's not a bona fide or prototypical number 1 centre doesn't mean you trade him...you still need a 2nd and 3rd line centre, and I don't mind it being Kadri.
I'm not following the logic of this thread at all. Essentially it's 'Kadri will not become a #1 centre and is weak defensively so trade him for a #1 centre who can score and is good defensively'.
Why and how would this magical trade happen?
Just hang on to him. Or the Leafs could repeat the Steen fiasco.
Why and how would this magical trade happen?
Just hang on to him. Or the Leafs could repeat the Steen fiasco.
GhostofPotvin29
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Joe S. said:
I'm assuming Antropov, Colaiacovo and a 1st are involved as well to sweeten the pot.
BlueWhiteBlood
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Joe S. said:
I think people are just talking, based on TSN spewing out their "insider" information today and in the last little while.
I can only speak for myself, but I don't think people are trying to push Kadri out the door, certainly not in a losing trade. If we could upgrade our team, why wouldn't you consider it?
BlueWhiteBlood said:
I didn't say I wouldn't consider it, if it improves the team obviously. What I'm trying to understand was the diminished view of Kadri and the unrealistic player(s) he could return in a trade.
The guy has top end offensive skills, you can see it, and I can't remember the last time the Leafs ever drafted a player like that and actually kept him. I'd just for once, like to see an natural scorer actually develop in Toronto.
All it costs the Leafs is time - if by the time he's 27 or so and he didn't pan out, then they can cut their losses.
BlueWhiteBlood
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Joe S. said:
I agree that being patient with Kadri is probably the road to take, I've always liked his combination of top skill with the frostiness that he brings when he's throwing hits. But if there is one area that he has to improve, it's definitely his defensive awareness. I know it's been repeated enough, but he needs to be responsible to be a top line center IMO. Face-off ability is another prerequisite which hasn't been discussed that much, but kind of needs to be there also.
I don't know if Nonis is considering a trade of Kadri or not, but it's being talked about a lot, maybe there's something we're not hearing? Or Nonis is indeed "just listening". Either way, I'm not advocating a trade of Kadri so much as playing with potentials on account that his name is out there and the Leafs have received offers for him.
Corn Flake
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Highlander said:
Give him Mason Raymond's spot. Time to end that experiment.
Crucialness Key
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Corn Flake said:
Didn't Bolland and Raymond have mad chemistry though? Granted that could have been part of MayRay's hot start.
Corn Flake said:
I'm fine with this. I haven't cared much for Raymond lately. Carlyle needs to take him off that 2nd line at the very least. I'd be interested to see Kadri on the wing too.
JVR-Bozak-Kessel
Lupul-Holland-Kadri
Kulemin-Bolland-Clarkson
Raymond-McClement-Ashton/Orr
Britishbulldog
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Crucialness Key said:
I am with CF on this one. I posted in late Fall to the effect that I felt that Raymond was a great skater and had a decent shot but couldn't handle the puck if his life depended on it and was terrible setting up plays since he bails out on a play to avoid hard body contact.
I also think that Franson isn't needed and would have value. If Carlyle and Nonis think that Bernier is their goalie then I feel that Reimer should be moved as well.
I think Orr is done and should be sent down to the Marlies again as I don't think he can be traded.
Is there a team in the NHL that could use a speedy scoring LW, big offensive RH dman and a potential #1 goalie with and asset the Leafs could use?