Kadri "made available" -according to 2 teams

[BlueWhiteBlood]

Trade Kadri to the Flames for their 1st and use Holland.

Why not just trade Holland for the 1st?

As of Sunday, if Holland plays every game till then, the conditional draft pick included in the deal becomes a 2nd rounder, instead of a 3rd.

Meh. A second and Blacker is still a good deal in my opinion. I think we have a real good player here and he seems to be maintenance free also, which is a plus. Kadri on the other hand.... I hope this stuff with Kadri and Carlyle doesn't become more of a side show than it already is.

 

[TML fan]

Trade Kadri to the Flames for their 1st and use Holland.

Why not just trade Holland for the 1st?

You forget that Holland is better silly.

Wow.

 

[armche123]

As of Sunday, if Holland plays every game till then, the conditional draft pick included in the deal becomes a 2nd rounder, instead of a 3rd.

Meh. A second and Blacker is still a good deal in my opinion. I think we have a real good player here and he seems to be maintenance free also, which is a plus. Kadri on the other hand.... I hope this stuff with Kadri and Carlyle doesn't become more of a side show than it already is.

He has some undeniable skills on the ice,  which will be worth something to the Leafs Team by having him on the roster, or they will benefit from the return he brings them on the market, which I believe is still silently increasing over time.

I dont believe its at the same level as Hollands worth, although he's been good since joining the team.

 

[Highlander]

Holland is a good 2nd or 3rd line centre.  Kadri has to play like he did last night every game to secure his 2nd line spot or Holland should be 2 until Kadri bucks up

 

[Redleaf]

Kadri On The Move?

On 'Leafs Breakfast' on TSN Radio 1050 on Thursday, TSN Hockey Insider Darren Dreger said believes that Toronto Maple Leafs forward Nazem Kadri is available in trade discussions, but that the club is not eager to move him because of their weakness at the centre position.

"I have been told bluntly by Dave Nonis that he needs a centre in return," Dreger said. "Who is going to give you a better centre for one they think might develop into a better centre?

"This one is going to be crafty. I do think he gets moved this year, but it's going to be a delicate one."



I would suggest as part of a package to Colorado for Paul Statsny.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

Kadri On The Move?

On 'Leafs Breakfast' on TSN Radio 1050 on Thursday, TSN Hockey Insider Darren Dreger said believes that Toronto Maple Leafs forward Nazem Kadri is available in trade discussions, but that the club is not eager to move him because of their weakness at the centre position.

"I have been told bluntly by Dave Nonis that he needs a centre in return," Dreger said. "Who is going to give you a better centre for one they think might develop into a better centre?

"This one is going to be crafty. I do think he gets moved this year, but it's going to be a delicate one."



I would suggest as part of a package to Colorado for Paul Statsny.

Would have to be quite the package to take on what his cap hit will be.

 

[Corn Flake]

I would suggest as part of a package to Colorado for Paul Statsny.

The pending UFA?

Going that route would be a serious departure from the long-term vision philosophy Nonis keeps preaching and that the team isn't interested in short-term choices for pieces like Kadri.

I think we will see something much more balanced.. such as another young centre who isn't quite fitting in in return.  Similar age, similar contract, etc.

Like a Chris Kreider for Kadri type of deal.  Or the Leafs go for a younger, less proven guy like a Ryan Strome for Kadri.

 

[Redleaf]

I would suggest as part of a package to Colorado for Paul Statsny.

The pending UFA?

At least you'd be sure to get him. If he goes to UFA, and that's a big IF, what are the chances the Leafs are able to sign him? A trade makes more sense, if they are really interested in acquiring him that is.

 

[bustaheims]

At least you'd be sure to get him. If he goes to UFA, and that's a big IF, what are the chances the Leafs are able to sign him? A trade makes more sense, if they are really interested in acquiring him that is.

You don't trade an asset like Kadri to get the first shot at a pending UFA. That's madness.

 

[BlueWhiteBlood]

I would suggest as part of a package to Colorado for Paul Statsny.

The pending UFA?

At least you'd be sure to get him. If he goes to UFA, and that's a big IF, what are the chances the Leafs are able to sign him? A trade makes more sense, if they are really interested in acquiring him that is.

I think I read that Paul Statsny has already said that intends to test the market, so, that would be a risky move. Ryan O'Rielly on the other hand, would be a good trade to go with. I believe Toronto has wanted him since last years contract negotiations.

 

[Redleaf]

At least you'd be sure to get him. If he goes to UFA, and that's a big IF, what are the chances the Leafs are able to sign him? A trade makes more sense, if they are really interested in acquiring him that is.

You don't trade an asset like Kadri to get the first shot at a pending UFA. That's madness.

I would assume a contract would have to get done for a deal like that to happen.

 

[Corn Flake]

I would suggest as part of a package to Colorado for Paul Statsny.

The pending UFA?

At least you'd be sure to get him. If he goes to UFA, and that's a big IF, what are the chances the Leafs are able to sign him? A trade makes more sense, if they are really interested in acquiring him that is.

I think I read that Paul Statsny has already said that intends to test the market, so, that would be a risky move. Ryan O'Rielly on the other hand, would be a good trade to go with. I believe Toronto has wanted him since last years contract negotiations.

I wouldn't hesitate on a Kadri for RoR trade. I think Colorado would, esp. with Stasnty likely gone.  They would suddenly go from deep at centre to two centres deep.

 

[Strangelove]

Trading Kadri for a pending UFA? What the hell is wrong with people?  He's a really young, highly skilled forward having a bit of a down offensive year on a team that, with a few exceptions, has been pretty bad offensively. Why focus so heavily on Kadri, and not on Lupul, or Raymond, or even Clarkson (I'm guessing people have totally given up on him or forgotten he exists?).

Though he isn't setting his linemates up at the same clip he was a year ago, his linemates aren't playing as well either (plus Raymond lacks the skill of the kinds of players Kadri was with last year).

But man, why would you trade a guy when his value is arguably the lowest it'll be in the next few years, and who has shown he can be a top notch scorer in the right circumstances, on a team desperate for offence? It boggles the mind. Turn the magnifying glass somewhere else for a while.

 

[Redleaf]

Trading Kadri for a pending UFA? What the hell is wrong with people?  He's a really young, highly skilled forward having a bit of a down offensive year on a team that, with a few exceptions, has been pretty bad offensively. Why focus so heavily on Kadri, and not on Lupul, or Raymond, or even Clarkson (I'm guessing people have totally given up on him or forgotten he exists?).

Though he isn't setting his linemates up at the same clip he was a year ago, his linemates aren't playing as well either (plus Raymond lacks the skill of the kinds of players Kadri was with last year).

But man, why would you trade a guy when his value is arguably the lowest it'll be in the next few years, and who has shown he can be a top notch scorer in the right circumstances, on a team desperate for offence? It boggles the mind. Turn the magnifying glass somewhere else for a while.

Don't blame the messenger. I'm just thinking if that's the plan, they had better get someone in return that can be a difference maker for this team.

 

[Corn Flake]

Trading Kadri for a pending UFA? What the hell is wrong with people?  He's a really young, highly skilled forward having a bit of a down offensive year on a team that, with a few exceptions, has been pretty bad offensively. Why focus so heavily on Kadri, and not on Lupul, or Raymond, or even Clarkson (I'm guessing people have totally given up on him or forgotten he exists?).

Though he isn't setting his linemates up at the same clip he was a year ago, his linemates aren't playing as well either (plus Raymond lacks the skill of the kinds of players Kadri was with last year).

But man, why would you trade a guy when his value is arguably the lowest it'll be in the next few years, and who has shown he can be a top notch scorer in the right circumstances, on a team desperate for offence? It boggles the mind. Turn the magnifying glass somewhere else for a while.

Don't blame the messenger. I'm just thinking if that's the plan, they had better get someone in return that can be a difference maker for this team.

Then think RoR.

You can pick up Stastny in the summer for FREE (well, for money).

 

[Redleaf]

Trading Kadri for a pending UFA? What the hell is wrong with people?  He's a really young, highly skilled forward having a bit of a down offensive year on a team that, with a few exceptions, has been pretty bad offensively. Why focus so heavily on Kadri, and not on Lupul, or Raymond, or even Clarkson (I'm guessing people have totally given up on him or forgotten he exists?).

Though he isn't setting his linemates up at the same clip he was a year ago, his linemates aren't playing as well either (plus Raymond lacks the skill of the kinds of players Kadri was with last year).

But man, why would you trade a guy when his value is arguably the lowest it'll be in the next few years, and who has shown he can be a top notch scorer in the right circumstances, on a team desperate for offence? It boggles the mind. Turn the magnifying glass somewhere else for a while.

Don't blame the messenger. I'm just thinking if that's the plan, they had better get someone in return that can be a difference maker for this team.

Then think RoR.

You can pick up Stastny in the summer for FREE (well, for money).

I'd be very happy with O'Reilly, but like you've already stated, if they lose Statsny they probably won't be dealing away ROR?

 

[BlueWhiteBlood]

I wouldn't hesitate on a Kadri for RoR trade. I think Colorado would, esp. with Stasnty likely gone.  They would suddenly go from deep at centre to two centres deep.

Not if Kadri was in the deal, as proposed in this thread. Kadri can play the minutes in Colorado, making it:

Duschene
Kadri
McKinnon

Even if they don't keep Statsny, they have enough not to disrupt their team all that much. I would lean towards a deal starting with those two assets and then sweeten it a bit for Colorado.

 

[L K]

I'm not quite sure why Ryan O'Reilly gets so much praise.  He's definitely a better defensive player than Kadri, but Kadri's "bad" season is 27 points in 45 games.  O'Reilly has 31 points in 44 games.  O'Reilly doesn't hit anything and has an unsustainable 14.5% shooting percentage this year (career 10%).  He's also been moved from center to play the wing this year.

I'd love to acquire O'Reilly but I feel like this would be more trading laterally and not really improving the team long-term.

 

[Corn Flake]

I wouldn't hesitate on a Kadri for RoR trade. I think Colorado would, esp. with Stasnty likely gone.  They would suddenly go from deep at centre to two centres deep.

Not if Kadri was in the deal, as proposed in this thread. Kadri can play the minutes in Colorado, making it:

Duschene
Kadri
McKinnon

Even if they don't keep Statsny, they have enough not to disrupt their team all that much. I would lean towards a deal starting with those two assets and then sweeten it a bit for Colorado.

Oh. Right. Duh @ me.

 

[Redleaf]

I'm not quite sure why Ryan O'Reilly gets so much praise.  He's definitely a better defensive player than Kadri, but Kadri's "bad" season is 27 points in 45 games.  O'Reilly has 31 points in 44 games.  O'Reilly doesn't hit anything and has an unsustainable 14.5% shooting percentage this year (career 10%).  He's also been moved from center to play the wing this year.

I'd love to acquire O'Reilly but I feel like this would be more trading laterally and not really improving the team long-term.

But you've just pointed out, he's better defensively than Kadri. If he can put up similar offensive numbers, which many believe he can, than he would help a team like the Leafs become a better defensive team.