Nik the Trik said:
You know "the moon landing hoax" only has 517,000 results, that seems low to me.
Kessel traded to Penguins
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You know "the moon landing hoax" only has 517,000 results, that seems low to me.
bustaheims
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cw said:
You need to be careful about how strongly you buy into media generated narratives. At training camp last season, Kessel earned some of the highest ratings in fitness testing. His perceived "lack of fitness" is entirely based on him having a rounder face and some offhand remarks he made about not skating much last summer - not "not training," just not skating.
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Nik the Trik said:
Im pretty sure Google treats Sasquatch and Lucic as interchangeable.
louisstamos
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MetalRaven said:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8X_Ot0k4XJc[/youtube]
LuncheonMeat
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Nik the Trik said:
I Googled Sasquatch and 'good value' and that returned 406,000 results. Perhaps we signed the wrong guy?
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CarltonTheBear said:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ou_HJRhWF6g[/youtube]
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LuncheonMeat
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This may have been posted elsewhere, but an interesting mention of the Kessel deal from the Hurricanes owner. He ripped Jim Rutherford before getting to Kessel:
?I ultimately take responsibility for everything,? Karmanos said.
Rutherford, now the Penguins GM, made perhaps the biggest NHL splash Wednesday, completing a trade that brought Toronto Maple Leafs forward Phil Kessel to Pittsburgh. That also earned a mention from Karmanos, who quipped, ?I do not have to take responsibility for Pittsburgh signing Kessel.
?Pittsburgh has no first-round picks anymore,? he added. ?They traded their first-round pick from the year before, they traded their first-round pick for this year and now they've traded their first-round pick for next year. But they have Kessel, who may score as many goals as Alex Semin did.?
More, just for fun (Karmanos re. Semin):
?We didn't buy him out to save cap space or anything like that. We bought him out because he was a distraction, he wasn't going to perform and we wanted to get on to building a team that could win.?
Karmanos ripping Rutherford again:
?[Francis is] far more astute on the financial end of the game,? Karmanos said. ?Jim liked to talk about the fact that we're a ?budget team.' I'm not sure what that ever meant. Every team has a budget. That means we had a budget until Jim needed a player, then I'd say, ?OK,' and we had a different budget.?
http://www.cbssports.com/nhl/eye-on-hockey/25231569/hurricanes-owner-peter-karmanos-slams-penguins-gm-jim-rutherford
?I ultimately take responsibility for everything,? Karmanos said.
Rutherford, now the Penguins GM, made perhaps the biggest NHL splash Wednesday, completing a trade that brought Toronto Maple Leafs forward Phil Kessel to Pittsburgh. That also earned a mention from Karmanos, who quipped, ?I do not have to take responsibility for Pittsburgh signing Kessel.
?Pittsburgh has no first-round picks anymore,? he added. ?They traded their first-round pick from the year before, they traded their first-round pick for this year and now they've traded their first-round pick for next year. But they have Kessel, who may score as many goals as Alex Semin did.?
More, just for fun (Karmanos re. Semin):
?We didn't buy him out to save cap space or anything like that. We bought him out because he was a distraction, he wasn't going to perform and we wanted to get on to building a team that could win.?
Karmanos ripping Rutherford again:
?[Francis is] far more astute on the financial end of the game,? Karmanos said. ?Jim liked to talk about the fact that we're a ?budget team.' I'm not sure what that ever meant. Every team has a budget. That means we had a budget until Jim needed a player, then I'd say, ?OK,' and we had a different budget.?
http://www.cbssports.com/nhl/eye-on-hockey/25231569/hurricanes-owner-peter-karmanos-slams-penguins-gm-jim-rutherford
bustaheims
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Bates said:
The Leafs' performance issues down the stretch had nothing to do with fitness. They were about talent, coaching/systems and motivation.
GhostofPotvin29
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L K said:I'm done worrying about Kessel and the trade so I'm just going to leave one final point.
Have to go all the way to 2007 in order to find a sample size of games where Kessel is away from Bozak.
Again - I've been away so sorry for the late commentary...
I'm actually ok with the return. A top end prospect ("top end" is purposefully undefined) plus a first rounder was all that I wanted, and it seems like its what we got. I think its a year too late (I wanted Kessel out last off season), and I kind of wanted the prospect to be a defenseman, but I can live with Kapanen.
Kessel just was in the wrong city at the wrong time. He's not meant to be a number 1 forward on a team - he just isn't. And to be fair - he wasn't supposed to be the number 1 forward here as well (He was supposed to be #3 behind the Sedin's in Burke's original re-tool plan, but was still brought in after the Sedin's re-signed in Van City at the 11th hour). He hung around for 6 years (has it been that long?) waiting for a number 1 centre, but he didn't come - not really his fault. He did still perform on the offensive side of the ice.
Kessel is going to probably the most ideal place for him, and I wouldn't be surprised to see him put up 40 goals and possibly 100 points there.
Kessel really had to go, mainly because he would yield the most for the rebuild. If this is all the Leafs could get, then so be it. All the "other" commentary is secondary, and mostly irrelevant.
I'm actually ok with the return. A top end prospect ("top end" is purposefully undefined) plus a first rounder was all that I wanted, and it seems like its what we got. I think its a year too late (I wanted Kessel out last off season), and I kind of wanted the prospect to be a defenseman, but I can live with Kapanen.
Kessel just was in the wrong city at the wrong time. He's not meant to be a number 1 forward on a team - he just isn't. And to be fair - he wasn't supposed to be the number 1 forward here as well (He was supposed to be #3 behind the Sedin's in Burke's original re-tool plan, but was still brought in after the Sedin's re-signed in Van City at the 11th hour). He hung around for 6 years (has it been that long?) waiting for a number 1 centre, but he didn't come - not really his fault. He did still perform on the offensive side of the ice.
Kessel is going to probably the most ideal place for him, and I wouldn't be surprised to see him put up 40 goals and possibly 100 points there.
Kessel really had to go, mainly because he would yield the most for the rebuild. If this is all the Leafs could get, then so be it. All the "other" commentary is secondary, and mostly irrelevant.