Leo Komarov

[Deebo]

Sweet... more 3rd liners..... :-\

The 3rd line was probably the worst part of last years team.

 

[bustaheims]

The 3rd line was probably the worst part of last years team.

You could almost say the Leafs didn't really have any 3rd liners on the 3rd line most of the season. They had a bunch of mediocre 2nd line types who couldn't play a 3rd line type role effectively and some 4th liners that were in over their heads.

 

[L K]

On face value alone, Komarov replacing Rosehill in the lineup. 

 

[Erndog]

Meh.

He'll come here, be in and out of the lineup for a year, get like 10 points in 60 games and bolt back home.

Waste of time. 

/pessimist mode

 

[Bender]

Meh.

He'll come here, be in and out of the lineup for a year, get like 10 points in 60 games and bolt back home.

Waste of time. 

/pessimist mode

God is dead!

/Nietzche mode

 

[Heroic Shrimp]

On face value alone, Komarov replacing Rosehill in the lineup. 

Plus I imagine you might also appreciate his initials.

 

[Zee]

Just saw that TSN article.  I don't like the line "If they need me and they give me a good contract then I will go over there".  Sounds like he wants to cash in.

 

[maplesyrup]

Just saw that TSN article.  I don't like the line "If they need me and they give me a good contract then I will go over there".  Sounds like he wants to cash in.

Doesn't everyone though? What's wrong with being frank about it?

 

[Zee]

Just saw that TSN article.  I don't like the line "If they need me and they give me a good contract then I will go over there".  Sounds like he wants to cash in.

Doesn't everyone though? What's wrong with being frank about it?

Sure but as long as his expectations are in line with what the Leafs can offer.  How much would you be willing to give a 25 year old player who doesn't have any NHL experience?  Looking at his stats he has 30 goals in 145 KHL games, that doesn't exactly blow me away.

 

[maplesyrup]

Just saw that TSN article.  I don't like the line "If they need me and they give me a good contract then I will go over there".  Sounds like he wants to cash in.

Doesn't everyone though? What's wrong with being frank about it?

Sure but as long as his expectations are in line with what the Leafs can offer.  How much would you be willing to give a 25 year old player who doesn't have any NHL experience?  Looking at his stats he has 30 goals in 145 KHL games, that doesn't exactly blow me away.

I don't know... Bozak territory?

 

[bustaheims]

Sure but as long as his expectations are in line with what the Leafs can offer.

Well, the Leafs can only offer a 1 year ELC, so, he already knows exactly what the basics of any contract he's going to receive will be.

 

[Zee]

Just saw that TSN article.  I don't like the line "If they need me and they give me a good contract then I will go over there".  Sounds like he wants to cash in.

Doesn't everyone though? What's wrong with being frank about it?

Sure but as long as his expectations are in line with what the Leafs can offer.  How much would you be willing to give a 25 year old player who doesn't have any NHL experience?  Looking at his stats he has 30 goals in 145 KHL games, that doesn't exactly blow me away.

I don't know... Bozak territory?

I don't think they should go that high.  Bozak was a free agent and pursued by more than the Leafs, Komarov is the Leafs property and they have rights to sign him.  He sounds like a 3rd-4th liner to me, what's that worth?  Low end 600k high end 800k?

 

[Tigger]

That's probably low, 850k-1m is more likely and even that might be on the low side. Not sure what else the Leafs would be willing to do/offer without knowing if there's a bonus cushion and such with the new CBA.

 

[maplesyrup]

Just saw that TSN article.  I don't like the line "If they need me and they give me a good contract then I will go over there".  Sounds like he wants to cash in.

Doesn't everyone though? What's wrong with being frank about it?

Sure but as long as his expectations are in line with what the Leafs can offer.  How much would you be willing to give a 25 year old player who doesn't have any NHL experience?  Looking at his stats he has 30 goals in 145 KHL games, that doesn't exactly blow me away.

I don't know... Bozak territory?

I don't think they should go that high.  Bozak was a free agent and pursued by more than the Leafs, Komarov is the Leafs property and they have rights to sign him.  He sounds like a 3rd-4th liner to me, what's that worth?  Low end 600k high end 800k?

I wouldn't be upset if it took a million and a half to get him over here. Assuming A finnish leaf fan is accurate in his assessment in that he can play, I don't think it's out of line with what a third line player should be getting. I mean, 1.5 for Komarov hopefully replacing one of third liner Armsrong (3) or Lombardi (3.5)? Where do I sign up for that?     

 

[Etiam Vultus]

Komarov is compared to Jaarko Ruutu.

FWIW Ruutu topped out at $1.3 million after he had established himself.

My guess is somewhere in the $800,000 range on a one-year contract.

 

[Guru Tugginmypuddah]

League minimum or he can go smell a belly button.

 

[maplesyrup]

League minimum or he can go smell a belly button.

.. but you've got to make him want to come over. If he can A) play and B) it's a reasonable number, why not?

 

[Tigger]

That's probably low, 850k-1m is more likely and even that might be on the low side. Not sure what else the Leafs would be willing to do/offer without knowing if there's a bonus cushion and such with the new CBA.

Further to this, Bozak was still subject to elc rules when he was first signed. Not sure what his performance bonuses were written under but he had the max in all categories. That means his nhl salary, 875k, and his signing bonus, 87.5, was the bulk of the cap hit at the end of each of his first two years.

For Komarov, max salary and signing bonus is 1.0175 mil. I think it's likely we'll see a bonus cushion in the new CBA, maybe that's why Calgary went all in on Cervenka's contract.

Anywho, I wouldn't offer Komarov the moon from what I know but I would consider schedule a bonuses for +/- and ice time.

I would also consider schedule b but I have a question about that. The league pays schedule b bonuses regardless of what's in a players contract, does that mean players with, say, a Conn Smythe bonus written in their deal get an additional 250k on top of what the league pays? I mean, I guess otherwise why would you ever write a schedule b bonus into a contract but I can't find anything definitive.

 

[bustaheims]

For Komarov, max salary and signing bonus is 1.0175 mil. I think it's likely we'll see a bonus cushion in the new CBA, maybe that's why Calgary went all in on Cervenka's contract.

Komarov is eligible for the exact same contract that Cervenka signed - $925K base + signing bonus, $850K CBA defined performance bonuses and $2M in additional performance bonuses.

 

[Tigger]

For Komarov, max salary and signing bonus is 1.0175 mil. I think it's likely we'll see a bonus cushion in the new CBA, maybe that's why Calgary went all in on Cervenka's contract.

Komarov is eligible for the exact same contract that Cervenka signed - $925K base + signing bonus, $850K CBA defined performance bonuses and $2M in additional performance bonuses.

I realize that but seeing as it's unlikely he'll achieve many of those bonuses I separated what I thought he might reasonably have a shot at from that group and outlined his guaranteed nhl money/cap hit. That's also part of the reason I brought up Bozak.