Luongo

[Heroic Shrimp]

Tweets from Damien Cox:

"Worth noting at June draft Canucks could've had Kadri, Bozak and a pick for Luongo. Got greedy. Now have lost as many as have won."

I know I can't prove it, I just don't believe that's true. I cannot believe either Nonis or Burke would have made that deal. And I can't believe if that deal was in fact true, that Vancouver wouldn't have jumped all over it.

I half with you.  I also personally don't believe Burke was willing to give up all that for Luongo, though all those components may well have come up in discussions.  However, I do believe that Gillis is delusional enough to think that he could get even more than that.  Personally, I still think Gillis would and will be lucky to get only a bad contract and/or average player in return.

I also don't see how all the rumours about what was offered by the Leafs are suddenly solidified with such certainty.

 

[Corn Flake]

Buy outs?

I don't think so. It's an insane amount of money.  it's not like Luongo can't do the job either, which is the stupid part of all of this.  He's playing better than Schneider last time I checked. 

The choice between pointlessly buy out Luongo for $30 mil or trade Schneider for a big return and let Luongo do the job for 5+ years is an easy one to me. 

 

[Jalili]

My first reaction was that it's false, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if it were true.

And it's no shock that Gillis the egomaniac turned it down. I'm happy it backfired on that team to be honest.

 

[hap_leaf]

Trading Kadri too early in his career would be exactly what this franchise used to do.  Glad those days seem to be over.

 

[Redleaf]

That suggested deal was still ridiculous back then before Kadri's coming out party this season.

I don't know who I believe but I know I want this to blow up in Gillis' face.

It may not have blown up in his face just yet, but that balloon full of pudding he's holding is filling up fast.

 

[Omallley]

I have a feeling the Canucks are going to be forced to move Schneider, not Luongo, if they can't find a sucker to take the contract real soon.  They may not have a choice this summer. 

Right now they have $3.9 mil in cap space to fill NINE roster spots, or less than $450K average.  now they don't have high end guys to replace, but that is below league minimum.  Something has to give.  Never mind trying to add anything of substance to the roster.

Schneider would get them a pretty nice return I would imagine.  Given that, and the fact they can't move Luongo, I think it's their only choice.

They are definitely in a position where they'll need to compliance buyout a couple players (Booth and Ballard would be my guesses based on their price/performance ratio) which should put them in a bit less of a pickle.

But still - I think you might be right on them having to move Schneider. He's got more value in a trade, and might be able to plug some of the holes that they'll have as a result of the compliance buyouts...

 

[Omallley]

Buy outs?

I don't think so. It's an insane amount of money.  it's not like Luongo can't do the job either, which is the stupid part of all of this.  He's playing better than Schneider last time I checked. 

The choice between pointlessly buy out Luongo for $30 mil or trade Schneider for a big return and let Luongo do the job for 5+ years is an easy one to me.

They can buyout other players though to ease some of the cap pain (but I still doubt they can move Luongo, FWIW).

 

[OldTimeHockey]

Buy outs?

I don't think so. It's an insane amount of money.  it's not like Luongo can't do the job either, which is the stupid part of all of this.  He's playing better than Schneider last time I checked. 

The choice between pointlessly buy out Luongo for $30 mil or trade Schneider for a big return and let Luongo do the job for 5+ years is an easy one to me.

No, I meant, could they not free up more cash by using the amnesty buyouts? Booth(4.25million)? Ballard(4.25million)?

 

[hockeyfan1]

Tweets from Damien Cox:

"Worth noting at June draft Canucks could've had Kadri, Bozak and a pick for Luongo. Got greedy. Now have lost as many as have won."

"Canucks were looking for something more like Gardiner, Frattin, 1st round pick and another piece. Felt could demand that from weak Leafs."

"Those who once sneered at possibility Kadri or any Leaf wud be adequate compensation for Luongo now insisting that deal never available."

"Gillis banked on Leafs not be able to get far with Reimer/Scrivens combo, wud come begging for Luongo. To be fair, many agreed with him."

Guess who gets the last laugh!

 

[Champ Kind]

Tweets from Damien Cox:

"Worth noting at June draft Canucks could've had Kadri, Bozak and a pick for Luongo. Got greedy. Now have lost as many as have won."

"Canucks were looking for something more like Gardiner, Frattin, 1st round pick and another piece. Felt could demand that from weak Leafs."

"Those who once sneered at possibility Kadri or any Leaf wud be adequate compensation for Luongo now insisting that deal never available."

"Gillis banked on Leafs not be able to get far with Reimer/Scrivens combo, wud come begging for Luongo. To be fair, many agreed with him."

Guess who gets the last laugh!

I don't know what's bugging me more: Cox's smug, know-it-all, retrospective view on this "deal" or his persistent use of "wud"

 

[Leafaholic99]

Nice to see a trade not happen and because it not happening, it worked out in the Leafs favour, if that trade had gone down, it may have been one of the worst Leafs trade in my time being a fan.

 

[Bullfrog]

I don't know what's bugging me more: Cox's smug, know-it-all, retrospective view on this "deal" or his persistent use of "wud"

I lik it. I'm in total suport of revizing the inglish language to a fonetikaly based speling.

 

[bustaheims]

I lik it. I'm in total suport of revizing the inglish language to a fonetikaly based speling.

You're dead to me.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

Tweets from Damien Cox:

"Worth noting at June draft Canucks could've had Kadri, Bozak and a pick for Luongo. Got greedy. Now have lost as many as have won."

"Canucks were looking for something more like Gardiner, Frattin, 1st round pick and another piece. Felt could demand that from weak Leafs."

"Those who once sneered at possibility Kadri or any Leaf wud be adequate compensation for Luongo now insisting that deal never available."

"Gillis banked on Leafs not be able to get far with Reimer/Scrivens combo, wud come begging for Luongo. To be fair, many agreed with him."

Guess who gets the last laugh!

I don't know what's bugging me more: Cox's smug, know-it-all, retrospective view on this "deal" or his persistent use of "wud"

Oh Cox, who claimed if Kadri didn't earn a full-time spot last season it was his last chance with Toronto.

 

[Zee]

Tweets from Damien Cox:

"Worth noting at June draft Canucks could've had Kadri, Bozak and a pick for Luongo. Got greedy. Now have lost as many as have won."

"Canucks were looking for something more like Gardiner, Frattin, 1st round pick and another piece. Felt could demand that from weak Leafs."

"Those who once sneered at possibility Kadri or any Leaf wud be adequate compensation for Luongo now insisting that deal never available."

"Gillis banked on Leafs not be able to get far with Reimer/Scrivens combo, wud come begging for Luongo. To be fair, many agreed with him."

Guess who gets the last laugh!

I don't know what's bugging me more: Cox's smug, know-it-all, retrospective view on this "deal" or his persistent use of "wud"

To be fair if he's tweeting these comments he has to keep the message into 140 characters or less.  Shortening common words like would, should etc are ways that people tweet sentences and still let themselves be understood.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

Tweets from Damien Cox:

"Worth noting at June draft Canucks could've had Kadri, Bozak and a pick for Luongo. Got greedy. Now have lost as many as have won."

"Canucks were looking for something more like Gardiner, Frattin, 1st round pick and another piece. Felt could demand that from weak Leafs."

"Those who once sneered at possibility Kadri or any Leaf wud be adequate compensation for Luongo now insisting that deal never available."

"Gillis banked on Leafs not be able to get far with Reimer/Scrivens combo, wud come begging for Luongo. To be fair, many agreed with him."

And here's what Cox said February 19th:

@DamoSpin

Can see why VAN hoped to get Kadri for Luongo. Can see why Leafs said no bloody chance.

Yeah, no Cox has no credibility.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

And here's what Cox said February 19th:

@DamoSpin

Can see why VAN hoped to get Kadri for Luongo. Can see why Leafs said no bloody chance.

Yeah, no Cox has no credibility.

I'm guessing some are calling him on this as he recently tweeted:

Damien Cox ‏@DamoSpin
Interesting some don't understand diff btwn VAN could have had Kadri at the draft but Leafs no longer willing by Jan. Willful ignorance?

Will try one more time. There's what the Leafs might have given up for Luongo at the draft. Then what changed by Jan. Any better?

No Damien, it isn't.

 

[Champ Kind]

And here's what Cox said February 19th:

@DamoSpin

Can see why VAN hoped to get Kadri for Luongo. Can see why Leafs said no bloody chance.

Yeah, no Cox has no credibility.

I'm guessing some are calling him on this as he recently tweeted:

Damien Cox ‏@DamoSpin
Interesting some don't understand diff btwn VAN could have had Kadri at the draft but Leafs no longer willing by Jan. Willful ignorance?

Will try one more time. There's what the Leafs might have given up for Luongo at the draft. Then what changed by Jan. Any better?

No Damien, it isn't.

CTB, your response made me laugh out loud (sorry, I never have and continue to use the acronym).  I like how he's now revising his own account of the situation to "might have given up".  I actually don't mind the guy, especially when he's on with McCowan, but this is absurd and Eklund'esque.

 

[Champ Kind]

Tweets from Damien Cox:

"Worth noting at June draft Canucks could've had Kadri, Bozak and a pick for Luongo. Got greedy. Now have lost as many as have won."

"Canucks were looking for something more like Gardiner, Frattin, 1st round pick and another piece. Felt could demand that from weak Leafs."

"Those who once sneered at possibility Kadri or any Leaf wud be adequate compensation for Luongo now insisting that deal never available."

"Gillis banked on Leafs not be able to get far with Reimer/Scrivens combo, wud come begging for Luongo. To be fair, many agreed with him."

Guess who gets the last laugh!

I don't know what's bugging me more: Cox's smug, know-it-all, retrospective view on this "deal" or his persistent use of "wud"

To be fair if he's tweeting these comments he has to keep the message into 140 characters or less.  Shortening common words like would, should etc are ways that people tweet sentences and still let themselves be understood.

I get that part of it, Zee, but "wud" is not a phonetic replacement for 'would'.  His word rhymes with "spud" or "grub". 

Plus, as a writer for major newspaper, I find it sort of offensive that he would choose to shorten worrds instead of finding a more efficient way of saying things, given the 140 character parameter.

 

[Zee]

Tweets from Damien Cox:

"Worth noting at June draft Canucks could've had Kadri, Bozak and a pick for Luongo. Got greedy. Now have lost as many as have won."

"Canucks were looking for something more like Gardiner, Frattin, 1st round pick and another piece. Felt could demand that from weak Leafs."

"Those who once sneered at possibility Kadri or any Leaf wud be adequate compensation for Luongo now insisting that deal never available."

"Gillis banked on Leafs not be able to get far with Reimer/Scrivens combo, wud come begging for Luongo. To be fair, many agreed with him."

Guess who gets the last laugh!

I don't know what's bugging me more: Cox's smug, know-it-all, retrospective view on this "deal" or his persistent use of "wud"

To be fair if he's tweeting these comments he has to keep the message into 140 characters or less.  Shortening common words like would, should etc are ways that people tweet sentences and still let themselves be understood.

I het that part of it, Zee, but "wud" is not a phonetic replacement for 'would'.  His word rhymes with "spud" or "grub". 

Plus, as a writer for major newspaper, I find it sort of offensive that he would choose to shorten worrds instead of finding a more efficient way of saying things, given the 140 character parameter.

That's the nature of Twitter though, reporter or not they all do it.  Just look at tweets from Bob McKenzie, Dreger et all.  They all shorten words.