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NHL's 24-team Return to Play proposal

I'm assuming the NHL and the PA are in agreement on these things, because if this is voted down there'd be a big problem getting the season started on the timelines that seem to be in place.
 
Nik said:
I don't think the issue is easier or harder, I think the issue is that whoever wins this little tournament will be doing so in conditions that will be drastically different than the games that took place during the regular season.

The idea of an asterisk is, obviously, shorthand for a larger question of what a cup won under these circumstances would mean. If someone out there would be really excited by the Leafs winning, if the claims of it being tainted wouldn't both them, then I guess that's their prerogative. Likewise, if you think that most of what makes your favourite team winning a championship would be absent and, as a result, it wouldn't do much for you that's equally valid.
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I just enjoy watching them play.  I even like watching preseason games. I?d rather they win the cup in a normal season, but i will get plenty of entertainment out of watching them play this year if it happens. I certainly prefer it to no hockey at all (with the caveat that I don?t want my indulgences to cause others to do something risky ? I?m assuming the risk can be minimized).
 
CarltonTheBear said:
https://twitter.com/PierreVLeBrun/status/1279057076128538625

Interesting that they're trying to cram in return to play measures, a CBA extension, and Olympics participation all in one big bundle.
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It's interesting they could fit that all together so quickly, but the last time they talked olympics, the discussions went on for months and months and months.
 
princedpw said:
I just enjoy watching them play.  I even like watching preseason games. I?d rather they win the cup in a normal season, but i will get plenty of entertainment out of watching them play this year if it happens. I certainly prefer it to no hockey at all (with the caveat that I don?t want my indulgences to cause others to do something risky ? I?m assuming the risk can be minimized).
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Sure. All things being equal and safe, I suppose I'd rather there be live sports going on right now then not although I worry that when people talk about sports being a "distraction" from our current difficulties it also means a way we've used them as a distraction from more pressing societal priorities that now have momentum behind them

Personally, though, I'd like them back whether the Leafs were good or bad, had a chance of winning or not. It'd be fun to watch. If we're not all caught up in winning or what validity there'd be to "breaking the streak" in these conditions...I think that's a positive step.
 
https://twitter.com/tsnbobmckenzie/status/1279405237015580673

I saw this and thought, I should share it with tmlfans, but get the direct tweet from Seravelli since he?s the author. Turns out he didn?t bother to self-promote it and just retweeted Bob, so here?s Bob with the foreword.
 
Well, I'm disappointed that there won't be major changes but that's just what the NHLPA is about these days I guess.
 
Once hockey starts though I'm not really sure what the point of hiding the identity of someone who tested positive will be. I mean if Matthews ends up missing a game for "undisclosed reasons" I'm pretty sure we'll all be able to connect the dots there.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Once hockey starts though I'm not really sure what the point of hiding the identity of someone who tested positive will be. I mean if Matthews ends up missing a game for "undisclosed reasons" I'm pretty sure we'll all be able to connect the dots there.
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If Matthews gets it again this quickly, then we've got a whole new set of problems.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Once hockey starts though I'm not really sure what the point of hiding the identity of someone who tested positive will be. I mean if Matthews ends up missing a game for "undisclosed reasons" I'm pretty sure we'll all be able to connect the dots there.
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From an employee/labour rights perspective... the CBA doesn't let a team disclose the exact illness, other than the fact that it prevented the player from playing without the express written consent of the player.
http://www.nhl.com/nhl/en/v3/ext/CBA2012/NHL_NHLPA_2013_CBA.pdf
34.3(c)(ii) and (iii)
(ii) Except with respect to uses, disclosures and redisclosures of Medical
Information that are permitted under the CBA, the SPC, and the
Authorizations, the Clubs, the NHLPA and the League shall not use,
disclose or redisclose any Medical Information relating to a Player (unless
stripped of all individual Player-identifying information) without the
express, prior, written consent of the Player or as required by law.

(iii) For public relations purposes a Club, the League, and/or the NHLPA may
disclose the following information: (A) for injuries sustained during the
course of a Player's employment as a hockey Player with the Club,
including, but not limited to, travel with his team or on business requested
by the Club: (I) the nature of a Player's injury, (II) the prognosis and the
anticipated length of recovery from the injury, and (III) the treatment and
surgical procedures undertaken or anticipated in regard to the injury; and
(B) for any other medical and/or health condition that prevents a Player
from rendering services to his Club: (I) the fact that a medical and/or
health condition is preventing the Player from rendering services to the
Club, and (II) the anticipated length of the Player's absence from the Club.
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CarltonTheBear said:
Once hockey starts though I'm not really sure what the point of hiding the identity of someone who tested positive will be. I mean if Matthews ends up missing a game for "undisclosed reasons" I'm pretty sure we'll all be able to connect the dots there.
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I agree.  But I honestly don't see the need to hiding the identities now.  I actually think it's kind of a silly they're withholding it (privacy issues...yeah yeah).  There is no stigma for testing positive for the virus (unless you acted stupidly like Djokovic).
 
Any guesses as to how many players opt out of the RTP?  Beyond Domi who might not even be allowed to play.

And if any, who do you think it might be?  Price was vocal with his concerns.  I'm sure others too have many concerns despite not publicizing them.  Would older players opt out?  Possibly upcoming free agents?
 
Montreal should strategically have Price and Domi and some randos opt out for a chance at Lafreniere
 
Peter D. said:
Any guesses as to how many players opt out of the RTP?  Beyond Domi who might not even be allowed to play.

And if any, who do you think it might be?  Price was vocal with his concerns.  I'm sure others too have many concerns despite not publicizing them.  Would older players opt out?  Possibly upcoming free agents?
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I wouldn?t be surprised to see some older pending UFAs on bubble teams opt out, and a number of guys who are not likely to get much, if any, ice time, too.
 
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