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Oilers vs. Maple Leafs - Mar. 1st, 8:00pm - SN, Fan 590

azzurri63 said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
L K said:
I know he scored two last game but I miss when Matthews felt like every rush was an inevitable goal

I mean, last year I seriously wouldn't have traded Matthews for McDavid.

How stupid is that?

McDavid is far better. last year I told some Oiler fan buddies the gap wasn't that far off but there's no comparison. Biggest thing for me is McDavid barely takes shifts off where Matthews takes games off. Night and day between the two.

Well, I think you're just wrong about Matthews taking games off.  It's well-documented that he's vastly improved his defensive game and they had a side-by-side comparison to McDavid in a graphic tonight.

But no, the fundamental point is that nobody is anywhere close to McDavid overall.  It's remarkable that one player can be that much better than the rest of the best players in the world.
 
Again, I think Holl would be the exact same defenseman if you took away his stick
 
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
azzurri63 said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
L K said:
I know he scored two last game but I miss when Matthews felt like every rush was an inevitable goal

I mean, last year I seriously wouldn't have traded Matthews for McDavid.

How stupid is that?

McDavid is far better. last year I told some Oiler fan buddies the gap wasn't that far off but there's no comparison. Biggest thing for me is McDavid barely takes shifts off where Matthews takes games off. Night and day between the two.

Well, I think you're just wrong about Matthews taking games off.  It's well-documented that he's vastly improved his defensive game and they had a side-by-side comparison to McDavid in a graphic tonight.

But no, the fundamental point is that nobody is anywhere close to McDavid overall.  It's remarkable that one player can be that much better than the rest of the best players in the world.

When your stats show no points, no shots on goal etc for someone making his money that's brutal and it does happen. We criticized his play at times this year a lot of us and maybe injury related but you expect more. He has taken nights off. If you're expecting him to play good D and not produce offensively and you're fine with that sorry I'm not ok with that not at his salary.
 
L K said:
Again, I think Holl would be the exact same defenseman if you took away his stick

If this guy is still a Leaf this weekend Dubas is clueless. Honestly think he has pictures of someones wife/ something.
 
L K said:
Again, I think Holl would be the exact same defenseman if you took away his stick
azzurri63 said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
azzurri63 said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
L K said:
I know he scored two last game but I miss when Matthews felt like every rush was an inevitable goal

I mean, last year I seriously wouldn't have traded Matthews for McDavid.

How stupid is that?

McDavid is far better. last year I told some Oiler fan buddies the gap wasn't that far off but there's no comparison. Biggest thing for me is McDavid barely takes shifts off where Matthews takes games off. Night and day between the two.

Well, I think you're just wrong about Matthews taking games off.  It's well-documented that he's vastly improved his defensive game and they had a side-by-side comparison to McDavid in a graphic tonight.

But no, the fundamental point is that nobody is anywhere close to McDavid overall.  It's remarkable that one player can be that much better than the rest of the best players in the world.

When your stats show no points, no shots on goal etc for someone making his money that's brutal and it does happen. We criticized his play at times this year a lot of us and maybe injury related but you expect more. He has taken nights off. If you're expecting him to play good D and not produce offensively and you're fine with that sorry I'm not ok with that not at his salary.

He's playing a 200-foot game every night.  It's perfectly reasonable for you to say that that's not good enough, but that's not the same as taking the night off.  I don't fault his effort.  He just seems to have lost his mojo, and unless it's because he's playing hurt then I have no idea why.
 
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
L K said:
Again, I think Holl would be the exact same defenseman if you took away his stick
azzurri63 said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
azzurri63 said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
L K said:
I know he scored two last game but I miss when Matthews felt like every rush was an inevitable goal

I mean, last year I seriously wouldn't have traded Matthews for McDavid.

How stupid is that?

McDavid is far better. last year I told some Oiler fan buddies the gap wasn't that far off but there's no comparison. Biggest thing for me is McDavid barely takes shifts off where Matthews takes games off. Night and day between the two.

Well, I think you're just wrong about Matthews taking games off.  It's well-documented that he's vastly improved his defensive game and they had a side-by-side comparison to McDavid in a graphic tonight.

But no, the fundamental point is that nobody is anywhere close to McDavid overall.  It's remarkable that one player can be that much better than the rest of the best players in the world.

When your stats show no points, no shots on goal etc for someone making his money that's brutal and it does happen. We criticized his play at times this year a lot of us and maybe injury related but you expect more. He has taken nights off. If you're expecting him to play good D and not produce offensively and you're fine with that sorry I'm not ok with that not at his salary.

He's playing a 200-foot game every night.  It's perfectly reasonable for you to say that that's not good enough, but that's not the same as taking the night off.  I don't fault his effort.  He just seems to have lost his mojo, and unless it's because he's playing hurt then I have no idea why.

I'll agree with that but too many nights he's pointless or not generating much. You're not paying him 11 million to play defence.
 
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