Schenn's Next deal

[Bender]

Hes getting paid on potential. He has to live up to the contract now, even though he clearly regressed last year. Improvement isnt always a guarantee. Plus Buffalo is $3m over the cap.

A contract extension wouldn't effect his cap hit this season, which is still $1.3mil.

Ok, so then let's look at next year: Roughly $48m committed to something like 16 players next season. 2014: $40m committed to 8 players. I still think Regier with money is like a mule with a spinning wheel.

*Edit: Fixed numbers.

 

[bustaheims]

Ok, so then let's look at next year: Roughly $48m committed to something like 16 players next season. 2014: $40m committed to 8 players. I still think Regier with money is like a mule with a spinning wheel.

*Edit: Fixed numbers.

According to capgeek, the Sabres have ~$55.25M committed to a6 player next season and one likely to get a substantial raise - Ennis. I'm sure they'll also do everything they can to hold on to Gaustad. Between those two, that's probably close to $6M in cap space gone. Depending on what happens with the cap and the new CBA, the Sabres may not have much room to improve themselves next summer.

 

[Pucken Chronic]

I was thinking 3 years near 10(ish) or 6+ years for 4 million(ish) a year.

 

[Bender]

Ok, so then let's look at next year: Roughly $48m committed to something like 16 players next season. 2014: $40m committed to 8 players. I still think Regier with money is like a mule with a spinning wheel.

*Edit: Fixed numbers.

According to capgeek, the Sabres have ~$55.25M committed to a6 player next season and one likely to get a substantial raise - Ennis. I'm sure they'll also do everything they can to hold on to Gaustad. Between those two, that's probably close to $6M in cap space gone. Depending on what happens with the cap and the new CBA, the Sabres may not have much room to improve themselves next summer.

While Sabres fans are swooning, I think there's one important caveat they're missing here: Flexibility. They don't have any. They will live and die by this group for the next five years or so, whether they achieve anything or not. And from my point of view: they aren't good enough to win the Cup, and they'll be in tough to make additions to make those moves to put them over the top.

 

[bustaheims]

While Sabres fans are swooning, I think there's one important caveat they're missing here: Flexibility. They don't have any. They will live and die by this group for the next five years or so, whether they achieve anything or not. And from my point of view: they aren't good enough to win the Cup, and they'll be in tough to make additions to make those moves to put them over the top.

I'm with you. I think the Sabres management team weren't really prepared for the sudden influx of money they could add for their payroll, and, instead of using it wisely and building up to the cap ceiling over 2 or 3 seasons, they went out and spent like drunk teenagers this summer And, like you said, now they have a problem in that they're not quite Cup contenders and don't have much wiggle room to work with for the next couple years.

 

[Deebo]

Players report in a little over 12 hours to the Mastercard Centre for Medicals and Fitness Testing and still no word of a deal.... uh oh

 

[draeko17]

Players report in a little over 12 hours to the Mastercard Centre for Medicals and Fitness Testing and still no word of a deal.... uh oh

lol

 

[bustaheims]

Players report in a little over 12 hours to the Mastercard Centre for Medicals and Fitness Testing and still no word of a deal.... uh oh

 

[Zee]

Lines of communication wide open in Schenn-TOR talks. Two sides continue to trade proposals. No evidence, at this point, to suggest problems

From Bob McKenzie

 

[Sudafederov]

Lines of communication wide open in Schenn-TOR talks. Two sides continue to trade proposals. No evidence, at this point, to suggest problems

From Bob McKenzie

Of course if you bold things just right, you get a much more Toronto Sunish parsing of words.

I'm sure this will be enough to convince Bruce Garrioch. 

Get on that column ASAP Bruce chop chop.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

Lines of communication wide open in Schenn-TOR talks. Two sides continue to trade proposals. No evidence, at this point, to suggest problems

From Bob McKenzie

Of course if you bold things just right, you get a much more Toronto Sunish parsing of words.

I'm sure this will be enough to convince Bruce Garrioch. 

Get on that column ASAP Bruce chop chop.

TSNBobMcKenzie Bob McKenzie
Should never use the term team and agent making "trade proposals" in a Leaf tweet. They're "exchanging" proposals. Calm down, Leaf Nation.

 

[Newbury]

Lines of communication wide open in Schenn-TOR talks. Two sides continue to trade proposals. No evidence, at this point, to suggest problems

From Bob McKenzie

Of course if you bold things just right, you get a much more Toronto Sunish parsing of words.

I'm sure this will be enough to convince Bruce Garrioch. 

Get on that column ASAP Bruce chop chop.

TSNBobMcKenzie Bob McKenzie
Should never use the term team and agent making "trade proposals" in a Leaf tweet. They're "exchanging" proposals. Calm down, Leaf Nation.

That's funny, cause when I first read that the words "trade proposals" stuck out to me. Poor choice of words, Bob.

I hope something gets worked out within a week. I'd hate to have to continue hearing about this, and I'm sure Luke and the team would too.

 

[cw]

While Sabres fans are swooning, I think there's one important caveat they're missing here: Flexibility. They don't have any. They will live and die by this group for the next five years or so, whether they achieve anything or not. And from my point of view: they aren't good enough to win the Cup, and they'll be in tough to make additions to make those moves to put them over the top.

16 are signed for their 2nd season from now
10 for their 3rd
5 for their 4th
and
3 for their 5th season.

If "They will live and die by this group for the next five years or so", it won't be likely due to  contracts they've already signed or cap space in my opinion.

I wouldn't put them into the top 4 as a contender but if Leino pans out at center and they maintain decent health, they could be a pretty tough team.

I don't see the doom and gloom for the next five years even if it doesn't all work out.

 

[Frank E]

They can spin this as no big deal, but this is not ideal. Meehan is starting to bug me.

 

[Deebo]

DarrenDregerDarren Dreger
Schenn negotiations continue. Nothing expected until the morning. If no deal is reached in the am...Schenn won't be in camp.

*ominious music*

 

[Deebo]

TSNBobMcKenzieBob McKenzie
Luke Schenn has agreed to terms with the Toronto Maple Leafs. No further details at this point but he will report to camp Friday

Nothing official in way of Schenn numbers but hearing it's a 5 year deal in the $3.5M range, give or take $100K. Exact details in the a.m.

good deal.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=375906

 

[Deebo]

We should play a guessing game for poops and chuckles. I'll start.

3 years, 3.75 per.

5 years, 3.55 per.

Looks like you win!

 

[CarltonTheBear]

TSNBobMcKenzieBob McKenzie
Luke Schenn has agreed to terms with the Toronto Maple Leafs. No further details at this point but he will report to camp Friday

Nothing official in way of Schenn numbers but hearing it's a 5 year deal in the $3.5M range, give or take $100K. Exact details in the a.m.

good deal.

Yup. Sounds good to me. I figured if it was a long-term deal the cap hit would be right around $4mil.

 

[Peter D.]

If true, I'm quite content with the term and money.  That buys up one year of his UFA, right?

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

So I built this bomb shelter for nothing?