sens vs. Maple Leafs - Feb. 10th, 7:00pm - SN, TSN 1050
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Guilt Trip
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No kidding...what a terrible comparison...Bender said:
Guru Tugginmypuddah
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If you watch the replay in slow-Mo (pun intended) you can see the principal point of contact is Greig's arm. Greig raises his arm, directing Reilly's stick up and into his head.
This was mentioned up thread by another poster, I feel it needs to be reiterated because Rielly didn't skate over and give Greig a two hander over the head.
https://youtu.be/QW1pqSHmMzY?si=ApYJmTnIgFmmF2AX&t=103
If you watch that clip in 0.25 super slo-Mo (again pun intended) it gives a good view.
This was mentioned up thread by another poster, I feel it needs to be reiterated because Rielly didn't skate over and give Greig a two hander over the head.
https://youtu.be/QW1pqSHmMzY?si=ApYJmTnIgFmmF2AX&t=103
If you watch that clip in 0.25 super slo-Mo (again pun intended) it gives a good view.
Nik said:
More or less this is where I'm at too. Looking forward to when there's something else to talk about regarding the Leafs. The fact that this is being stretched into a minimum 4-day discourse thing doesn't help.
Am I reading this correctly?:
https://theahl.com/stats/transactions/335/81?page=1
Feb 9, Lajoie got called up (on emergency basis from other reporting)
Feb 10, Lajoie returned to Marlies
Feb 12, Lajoie called up (don't know if on emergency basis but presume so)
Rielly is suspended - we don't know for how many games
Giordano is out - Keefe said probably longer than day-to-day
If Timmins is still sick, then they need Lajoie
https://theahl.com/stats/transactions/335/81?page=1
Feb 9, Lajoie got called up (on emergency basis from other reporting)
Feb 10, Lajoie returned to Marlies
Feb 12, Lajoie called up (don't know if on emergency basis but presume so)
Rielly is suspended - we don't know for how many games
Giordano is out - Keefe said probably longer than day-to-day
If Timmins is still sick, then they need Lajoie
He should have just jumped him, pushed him into the boards, punched him or cross checked him in the waist area. But he didn't - he led with his stick up high. Regardless of whether Grieg's arm helped the stick run up into his neck area, the initial contact was too high and potentially dangerous. You expect a guy to raise his arms to defend himself in a situation like that.
As others have noted, I love the intent of Rielly to respond to being shown up. But his actual actions were over the line and I can't believe people are still defending that and even trying to shift the blame onto Grieg.
As others have noted, I love the intent of Rielly to respond to being shown up. But his actual actions were over the line and I can't believe people are still defending that and even trying to shift the blame onto Grieg.
Kin
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Chris said:
I don't know if I like that take either though. Just about every single hit, clean or dirty, is "potentially dangerous". I think the fact that he didn't get hurt should actually be the deciding factor. I don't think Rielly hit him hard enough, or hit him in the sort of way, where a serious injury could or should be reasonably expected.
It was the wrong thing to do, no doubt, but more than a couple of games for this to me, I think, would be less about what Rielly actually did and more about using this as an example to "send a message".
ZBBM
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I don't get at all the take that this can't be analogized to what happens in the "real world." Huh? What "world" are sports part of, if not this one?
When you consent to play a sport with violent collisions and an inherent risk of injury from them doesn't mean you are consenting to be attacked and hit in the head with a stick in an event that is totally outside the course of play. It also doesn't make it magically right if your assailant meant to hit you the waist instead.
When you consent to play a sport with violent collisions and an inherent risk of injury from them doesn't mean you are consenting to be attacked and hit in the head with a stick in an event that is totally outside the course of play. It also doesn't make it magically right if your assailant meant to hit you the waist instead.
Nik said:
OK, how about "potentially more dangerous" or "potentially very dangerous" or "more likely to cause serious injury." Pick whatever language suits you, but there are good reasons why there are rules in place against certain types of hits (hits from behind, boarding, spearing etc). The fact that Grieg doesn't appear to have been injured should be factored in, but the high cross-check certainly had more potential to cause serious injury than the typical body check.
Personal opinion, he should get 3 games or so. I expect he'll get 6.
dappleganger
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Bill_Berg_is_pissed_off said:
Intigator penalty with less than 5 minutes left in the game is an automatic 1 game suspension?
Guilt Trip
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This made me laugh...said it before, nobody in that room will have an issue with Rielly.
https://twitter.com/sunhornby/status/1757105646518821229
https://twitter.com/sunhornby/status/1757105646518821229
Kin
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Chris said:
I wasn't trying to get into semantics here. I was just making the point that any kind of hit has the potential to be all manner of dangerous based on things outside of the hitter's control. I think the fact that Greig didn't get seriously hurt suggests that while it may have looked bad, I don't think Rielly really intended to hurt him even in the sort of fog of war that you can attribute to pretty clear cases of intent to injure. Obviously the NHL has rules against cross checking for good reason but I think we can all tell the difference between the really bad examples and the less bad examples and I was just saying that I thought this was the latter.