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CarltonTheBear said:
That's Auston Matthews, projected to be the top pick in the 2016 draft. If the league rigs something it'll be that one. Or both I guess.
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Thanks for that.
 
bustaheims said:
Significantly Insignificant said:
Those are the stats for David Backes in his first 4 years in the league.  Those don't exactly scream first line centre to me either.  Sure 2008-2009 looks good, but then there is a back slide in 2009-2010.
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I'm not sure Backes is really a #1 C either. And, while St Louis does have the luxury of having three 2nd line centres right now, their lack of a true #1 C is likely part of the reason they haven't experienced much by way of post-season success.
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They should bottom out and get some elite talent.
 
RedLeaf said:
Madferret said:
If Anderson's injury is long term you guys can forget finishing ahead of Ottawa
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The battle of Ontario has now taken on an ugly new wrinkle.
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One team spending to the cap and trying to tank / finish last and one team last in payroll trying to make the playoffs...bizarro NHL
 
Peter D. said:
bustaheims said:
I'm not conspiracy theorist or anything, but, with the drop in the Canadian dollar, the league likely cannot afford to see the Leafs revenue drop off in any meaningful way. In fact, I'm sure they'd love to see it grow. If there was ever a time the league might rig something in the Leafs' favour, it would be now. I don't see it happening, because I don't believe that's how the actually operate, but, stranger things have happened.
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My fear is the league rigging it in favour for that joke of a franchise in Arizona.
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One of the guys on Leafs Lunch yesterday was talking about being in Glendale going to the rink.  His cab driver had no idea where it was and had been driving there for 12 years.  Another story about stopping in at a sports bar there and women's tennis was on.  He asked if they could put on the hockey game on and the bartender (of a sports bar) informed him that they don't have the NHL package.  Apparently the locals aren't very attached to their team.

Bring them to Seattle!!!  I'll greet them at the airport.  :D
 
I am Arizona for the winter's and have gone to plenty of Coyotes games in the past 3 years.  When the Leafs, Chicago, Rangers or any east coast team plays their is a 50 to 50 split in jerseys between the teams.  The fan base is small but voracious.  When West coast teams are here its almost all AZ Jerseys.
I think when they moved out of downtown Phoenix to Glendale they actually shot themselves in the head. I have spoken to many people here who used to go to the games in town but treat Glendale like it is on Mars.  I personally don't get that as the road systems here are to be envied by any other N.A. city and there is ample parking around the complex. Do remember the Cardinals do play in the Super Bowl  Stadium as well and that is located right beside the Jobing Centre.  I think hockey can work here but they need to be in it for the long run.
 
Highlander said:
I am Arizona for the winter's and have gone to plenty of Coyotes games in the past 3 years.  When the Leafs, Chicago, Rangers or any east coast team plays their is a 50 to 50 split in jerseys between the teams.  The fan base is small but voracious.  When West coast teams are here its almost all AZ Jerseys.
I think when they moved out of downtown Phoenix to Glendale they actually shot themselves in the head. I have spoken to many people here who used to go to the games in town but treat Glendale like it is on Mars.  I personally don't get that as the road systems here are to be envied by any other N.A. city and there is ample parking around the complex. Do remember the Cardinals do play in the Super Bowl  Stadium as well and that is located right beside the Jobing Centre.  I think hockey can work here but they need to be in it for the long run.
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The arena and surrounding area are kind of Vegas style, and really quite nice. I'll be going to another game there in March and looking forward to it! I've never been able to catch a Leaf game there unfortunately.
 
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Here is the points compared to the bottom 2 finish in 2010.
 
2-2 Blues/Canes with about 3 minutes left in the 3rd.  :D

Devils being outshot 32-10 by the Pens but leading 1-0 with about 6 minutes to go in the 3rd.  ;D

All hail the power of the Tank!!! 
 
LuncheonMeat said:
2-2 Blues/Canes with about 3 minutes left in the 3rd.  :D

Devils being outshot 32-10 by the Pens but leading 1-0 with about 6 minutes to go in the 3rd.  ;D

All hail the power of the Tank!!!
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Pittsburgh ties it and wins it in overtime. New Jersey was outshot 43-14.
 
The shudder at the thought of Buffalo having either McDavid/Eichel and Reinhart down the middle for many many years. Buffalo picked a great year to tank in the best possible way ever.
 
mc said:
The shudder at the thought of Buffalo having either McDavid/Eichel and Reinhart down the middle for many many years. Buffalo picked a great year to tank in the best possible way ever.
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Yup.  I look forward to many more years of Sabres kicking the Leafs ass.
 
mc said:
The shudder at the thought of Buffalo having either McDavid/Eichel and Reinhart down the middle for many many years. Buffalo picked a great year to tank in the best possible way ever.
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I look forward to seeing how the Sabres inevitably screw that up.
 
bustaheims said:
mc said:
The shudder at the thought of Buffalo having either McDavid/Eichel and Reinhart down the middle for many many years. Buffalo picked a great year to tank in the best possible way ever.
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I look forward to seeing how the Sabres inevitably screw that up.
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12 year contracts followed up by a buyout a year later?
 
This is a decent article from Cox, yeah I know...

In an ideal world ? if you can term losing ideal ? the Leafs might even plummet to within range of McDavid or Eichel, players that could transform the franchise. There is a lottery, don?t forget.

Getting the best draft pick possible (while taming the payroll) is the new focus of management, regardless of how Shanahan decides to proceed with GM Dave Nonis, the coaching staff and the rest of the organization beyond this season.

All of which puts Phaneuf, not to mention other veterans, in a difficult spot, and leaves Leaf management forced to decide which players (if any) should be retained to complement the new core they want to build. In other words, how low do they want to go? How many drafts in a row do they want to pick in the top five?

This much is true. Shanahan has to find a way to see beyond this city?s perversity of perception when it comes to hockey players, even if the city?s fans and media can?t. Smart, careful decisions have to be made with assets the team already owns, and Phaneuf would be at the top of that list. Blowing it up doesn?t mean it has to be done recklessly, or thoughtlessly.

It may not be sensible to keep Phaneuf as the roster is renovated and the payroll is shaved, but that doesn?t mean it would make sense just to give him away, as Sittler, Murphy and Sundin were once given away for little or nothing in return.

That didn?t help anything. And yes, the Leafs were rebuilding then, too.
 
Either Phanuef or Clarkson needs to go and Clarkson is immovable in my opinion. There is a market for big lumbering #3 or 4 defencemen me thinks.  Move out Bozak, Lupul and Riemer as well.
 
Phanuef in LA is a good fit with Voynov out. Nonis was in Manchester scouting Mike Richards last night - or so we believe he was there for Richards.
 
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