Tavares
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mr grieves
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herman said:
I'm not high on Holl or anything else RHD in the system... but I'd still go to $12m for Tavares. There's no RHD option out there that'd move the needle as much as JT, so that's where I'd look to make a substantial investment. If any of Tulloch's ideas for good RHD upgrades -- Pysyk, Demers, Petry, Gudas -- come to pass, great, and Tavares doesn't get in the way of that. If nothing like that happens, Tavares plus the existing guys in the system makes the team way better than anything else out there that I can see.
mr grieves
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cabber24 said:
Me too... But I suspect if he makes it to free agency and the Leafs sit out the Tavares bidding to wait on Doughty, we'll see JT to San Jose or Vegas announced at 12:01pm and Doughty's 8-year extension announced at 12:05.
bustaheims
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Zee said:
This here is why any talk of a 1 year deal with the promise of a longer term deal shall remain the territory of fantasy talk rather than reality.
mr grieves
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pmrules said:
I like that idea a lot. Of course, as busta says above, it's hard to imagine Tavares (or his agent) betting on himself like this... but it'd be a nice way to get Tavares a payday like that which he'd get from NYI (~$12m/year) without destroying the Leafs' ability to re-sign Matthews, Marner, etc and have a decent defense.
I would imagine the Leafs paying premiums on a $100m insurance policy on Tavares's future earnings in the event of a catastrophic injury would look a lot like tampering and cap circumvention.
Guilt Trip
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Who says JT was even offered a contract? Maybe he wasn't. And if his desire is to leave NYI, he wouldn't sign there... There are a lot of players that play their contract out. Nylander did this year and by all accounts so will Marner and Matthews this year. JVR, Bozak, the same.cabber24 said:
On the other part if they're offered a contract. They could be giving up substantial money signing a year early. A mill over 7 years is a lot of coin to add to your bank by waiting a year.
bustaheims
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cabber24 said:
It's almost like there's a substantial difference between choosing a short-term deal instead of long-term security and waiting to put yourself in the best situation to achieve long-term security instead of taking an early offer to stay in a situation that maybe you're not happy with.
dappleganger
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These players, the higher end ones, have insurance not just for their current contract but for future earnings, no?
bustaheims
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Frank E said:
Sure, but, it's still quite different from actively choosing to put yourself in that situation for another season. Every player will eventually be in the last year of their contract, but high-end players aren't often going to voluntarily put themselves in that situation for consecutive seasons (unless they're blatantly chasing a Cup, like Hossa tried to) - especially when they'll be presented with the prospect of increased financial security without risk of injury getting in the way of the imminent payday.
Glad your not my accountant. An additional $90M into the Tavares fund could take care of generations of his family and go along with any charities of his choosing.Nik the Trik said:
Tavares could have bought an insurance policy to protect himself though.
https://www.thestar.com/sports/leafs/2012/02/08/sidney_crosby_could_reap_20m_if_injuries_force_retirement.html
Kin
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cabber24 said:
He coulf set up large trusts for family members and give lots of money to charity with what he's already earned. Again, the additional money is largely an abstraction in that sense. Could it be used to take care of relatives who haven't been born yet? I suppose. Is there a tangible difference between giving a million dollars to a charity and giving 10 million to a charity?
But the idea that a 25 or 26 year old athlete is going to be primarily concerned with those abstractions over, say, ultimately deciding for himself where he wants to live and play for the prime years of his career is pretty silly.
