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Tavares

Nik the Trik said:
cabber24 said:
How about focusing on the bronze statue of yourself you'll get, the 5,000,000 who will attend the parade, and your place in folklore when bringing a cup to Toronto?

Guys who win the cup in other markets seem pretty happy about it.

I don't know.  Ovechkin seems down right depressed.
 
herman said:
https://twitter.com/TorontoMarlies/status/555819174476652544

I didn't know Tavares played with a young Sean William Scott.

What message are they sending here?  "John, there's always a place for you on the Marlies"
 
herman said:
https://twitter.com/TorontoMarlies/status/555819174476652544

The fact that the Leafs were supposedly considering signing Tavares to an AHL-only deal to play for the Marlies in his draft year still makes me chuckle.
 
Significantly Insignificant said:
Nik the Trik said:
cabber24 said:
How about focusing on the bronze statue of yourself you'll get, the 5,000,000 who will attend the parade, and your place in folklore when bringing a cup to Toronto?

Guys who win the cup in other markets seem pretty happy about it.

I don't know.  Ovechkin seems down right depressed.
The Washington fan obsession with members of this Stanley Cup winning team will fail in comparison to Toronto's if they ever win.
 
cabber24 said:
The Washington fan obsession with members of this Stanley Cup winning team will fail in comparison to Toronto's if they ever win.

Good, yeah, remember to put "If you win, fans will be irrationally obsessed with you" in your promo video.
 
Nik the Trik said:
cabber24 said:
The Washington fan obsession with members of this Stanley Cup winning team will fail in comparison to Toronto's if they ever win.

Good, yeah, remember to put "If you win, fans will be irrationally obsessed with you" in your promo video.
Someone as dedicated to this team as you are has to have an appreciation that winning here would mean more then winning anywhere else. I would add it to the video. What could be more appealing to a Toronto kid then bringing the cup home to a starving fan base? It's the stuff I fantasized about as a kid.
 
cabber24 said:
Nik the Trik said:
cabber24 said:
The Washington fan obsession with members of this Stanley Cup winning team will fail in comparison to Toronto's if they ever win.

Good, yeah, remember to put "If you win, fans will be irrationally obsessed with you" in your promo video.
Someone as dedicated to this team as you are has to have an appreciation that winning here would mean more then winning anywhere else. I would add it to the video. What could be more appealing to a Toronto kid then bringing the cup home to a starving fan base? It's the stuff I fantasized about as a kid.

Sure, but when that becomes a reality, it can sometimes get scary.  I have heard a couple of celebrity detail how their celebrity became a jail for them.  When you are a kid you don't think of the ramifications of living in that environment day in and day out and never being able to get away from it.  These are all things that have to be considered.  I don't know John Tavares personally, but if he is one that doesn't like the spotlight, and only wants to play hockey because he enjoys the sport and he is good at it, then Toronto may not be for him. 
 
cabber24 said:
Someone as dedicated to this team as you are has to have an appreciation that winning here would mean more then winning anywhere else. I would add it to the video. What could be more appealing to a Toronto kid then bringing the cup home to a starving fan base? It's the stuff I fantasized about as a kid.

That may be true for some, but it won't be true for everyone. We can't say with any certainty that Tavares would get more out of winning as a Leaf than he would with any other team. Or if winning with a new team would mean more to him than winning with guys he's spent years playing with.
 
cabber24 said:
Someone as dedicated to this team as you are has to have an appreciation that winning here would mean more then winning anywhere else. I would add it to the video. What could be more appealing to a Toronto kid then bringing the cup home to a starving fan base? It's the stuff I fantasized about as a kid.

I think that's a pretty good illustration of how fans like us might still see the game as we did as kids vs. the way players, who are adult professionals will see things.

I don't personally know that winning here would mean "more" than winning anywhere else but mainly I don't think that most players look at winning the cup as something they're doing for the community they play in. I think they tend to look at it as a source of personal/professional accomplishment and, as such, are happy regardless of where they win it.

No matter where a player wins the cup he's going to make fans happy. I don't know how realistic it is to expect someone like Tavares to care more about the fact that Toronto might have more fans, or that some fans might be happier comparatively, vs. the actual day to day impact playing here would have on his life.
 
Uncle Lou may pull off the resign if the Trotz rumors are true.

If I was Tavares' agent, I would remind him to take his whole tenure into consideration not just what has happened the last few months.
 
cabber24 said:
Uncle Lou may pull off the resign if the Trotz rumors are true.

If I was Tavares' agent, I would remind him to take his whole tenure into consideration not just what has happened the last few months.

You can say the same about any coach.  Babcock only has 1 cup as well, so is he any better than Trotz who has just won the most recent cup?

I'm thinking Trotz and Tavares might be a package deal.  Lou will convince Tavares that he's got the right man to turn the team around.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Dreger with a big scoop:

https://twitter.com/NicholsOnHockey/status/1009854152011214848

;D  Way to scoop everyone Dreger.  "Right now, there's no decision"

I can't confirm or deny there's no decision yet.
 
I knew when Lou joined the NYI the chances of JT coming went down, but now that Trotts has been hired, the chances are now gone IMO.  I guess we look elsewhere for our much needed center help.
 
nutman said:
I knew when Lou joined the NYI the chances of JT coming went down, but now that Trotts has been hired, the chances are now gone IMO.  I guess we look elsewhere for our much needed center help.
I dont think it changes anything pertaining to the Leafs. If he had the dream of playing for us or anyone else, that wont change his mind. I think he's going to free agency just to see whats out there. If the Leafs offer up the right amount of cash and term to go witg his desite, if there is one, he'll be a Leaf. We'll see soon eniugh.
 
Guilt Trip said:
nutman said:
I knew when Lou joined the NYI the chances of JT coming went down, but now that Trotts has been hired, the chances are now gone IMO.  I guess we look elsewhere for our much needed center help.
I dont think it changes anything pertaining to the Leafs. If he had the dream of playing for us or anyone else, that wont change his mind. I think he's going to free agency just to see whats out there. If the Leafs offer up the right amount of cash and term to go witg his desite, if there is one, he'll be a Leaf. We'll see soon eniugh.

I don't think that's exactly right. This is looking more and more likely to go the way of Stamkos. JT will hear offers, consider the opportunities they present, and then look back at what he's leaving... which, now, isn't just the team that drafted and to which he feels some sense of obligation, loyalty, or whatever. It's a living legend GM, a recent Cup-winning coach, and, by the end of the weekend, maybe stability in net (one of NYI's firsts for Grubauer?).
 
mr grieves said:
I don't think that's exactly right. This is looking more and more likely to go the way of Stamkos. JT will hear offers, consider the opportunities they present, and then look back at what he's leaving... which, now, isn't just the team that drafted and to which he feels some sense of obligation, loyalty, or whatever. It's a living legend GM, a recent Cup-winning coach, and, by the end of the weekend, maybe stability in net (one of NYI's firsts for Grubauer?).

It's a side point but unless the Caps are super confident in Samsonov coming over and playing a big role right away I wouldn't be too eager to deal Grubauer after the year Holtby just had.
 
Nik the Trik said:
It's a side point but unless the Caps are super confident in Samsonov coming over and playing a big role right away I wouldn't be too eager to deal Grubauer after the year Holtby just had.

The chatter seems to indicate they're pretty set on moving him. He's a year away from becoming a UFA, and will need a more expensive contract than they can afford to give someone they expect to be their backup.
 
The Dubas pitch to Tavares complete with the song "Leafs are the best" playing on the boom box:

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