TOP 5 PICK!!!

[Guru Tugginmypuddah]

Use #35 to pick Subban?

A more appropriate question.

It was more of rub against Button having  Subban listed at 8.  Within two weeks Button will have him in the top 5. 

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Just to be clear, Craig Button's list there isn't a mock draft, it's just a ranking of the top-60 prospects in his opinion. There is a difference. He's not suggesting that Grigorenko will be picked at 20 or Murray at 13. In fact, shortly after the draft lottery he posted a mock draft and had Grigorenko going 3 and Murray 2 (Forsberg was 4 and Galchenyuk 5, which is exactly what I'm hoping for).

With that said, it's still pretty out there to suggest that Grigorenko will be the 20th best player in the draft when all is said and done.

 

[Etiam Vultus]

Just to be clear, Craig Button's list there isn't a mock draft, it's just a ranking of the top-60 prospects in his opinion. There is a difference. He's not suggesting that Grigorenko will be picked at 20 or Murray at 13. In fact, shortly after the draft lottery he posted a mock draft and had Grigorenko going 3 and Murray 2 (Forsberg was 4 and Galchenyuk 5, which is exactly what I'm hoping for).

With that said, it's still pretty out there to suggest that Grigorenko will be the 20th best player in the draft when all is said and done.

I think that the positioning of 20th represents the risk/reward equation.  On talent, Grigorenko appears to be in the top two, but there are concerns about his character and his commitment to play in the NHL vs. the KHL.  An additional complication is the suggestion that he had mono during the latter part of the season when his play fell off.

I think that most teams expect Grigorenko will either be one of the best players from this draft, or a total bust. 

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Article highlighting why Galchenyuk could be the riskiest pick of the draft, but also why he is ranked so high regardless.

And article from the same source about Grigorenko and why he's still a clear top-two talent in the 2012 draft class:

http://www.hockeyprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=1333

 

[Tigger]

Article highlighting why Galchenyuk could be the riskiest pick of the draft, but also why he is ranked so high regardless.

And article from the same source about Grigorenko and why he's still a clear top-two talent in the 2012 draft class:

http://www.hockeyprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=1333

I really enjoyed that article, thanks for posting.

 

[TML fan]

Is Forsberg a centre or a winger?

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Is Forsberg a centre or a winger?

From what I've read he played some centre when he was younger but he's primarily been a winger the last couple of years.

 

[Tigger]

Is Forsberg a centre or a winger?

Seriously? I mean google, c'mon.

 

[TML fan]

I don't know much about him, but from what little I've heard he sounds like he'd be a good pick. If Galchenyuk is available, I'd probably go with him though.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Is Forsberg a centre or a winger?

Seriously? I mean google, c'mon.

To be fair, there's a bit of confusion regarding that topic. Different sites have him listed as both.

 

[TML fan]

Is Forsberg a centre or a winger?

Seriously? I mean google, c'mon.

What's the friggin difference if I just ask someone who knows? Christ...

 

[CarltonTheBear]

I don't know much about him, but from what little I've heard he sounds like he'd be a good pick. If Galchenyuk is available, I'd probably go with him though.

There's really not much to like about him, I just think Grigorenko and Galchenyuk have higher offensive upsides. And that's what I'm looking for with this pick.

 

[Tigger]

Is Forsberg a centre or a winger?

Seriously? I mean google, c'mon.

What's the friggin difference if I just ask someone who knows? Christ...

The game's on!!!

 

[TML fan]

I don't know much about him, but from what little I've heard he sounds like he'd be a good pick. If Galchenyuk is available, I'd probably go with him though.

There's really not much to like about him, I just think Grigorenko and Galchenyuk have higher offensive upsides. And that's what I'm looking for with this pick.

I was under the impression that he was up there with those guys. Galchenyuk's injury is a bit of a concern, but if his projections are that much higher I'd definitely take the risk, in this case.

 

[TML fan]

Is Forsberg a centre or a winger?

Seriously? I mean google, c'mon.

What's the friggin difference if I just ask someone who knows? Christ...

The game's on!!!

An yet, you still have time to come here and tell me to use google.

 

[Tigger]

Is Forsberg a centre or a winger?

Seriously? I mean google, c'mon.

What's the friggin difference if I just ask someone who knows? Christ...

The game's on!!!

An yet, you still have time to come here and tell me to use google.

Yup, read between the lines, I'm just giving you the business, or trying to anyways.

 

[Guru Tugginmypuddah]

Just to be clear, Craig Button's list there isn't a mock draft, it's just a ranking of the top-60 prospects in his opinion. There is a difference. He's not suggesting that Grigorenko will be picked at 20 or Murray at 13. In fact, shortly after the draft lottery he posted a mock draft and had Grigorenko going 3 and Murray 2 (Forsberg was 4 and Galchenyuk 5, which is exactly what I'm hoping for).

With that said, it's still pretty out there to suggest that Grigorenko will be the 20th best player in the draft when all is said and done.

OK, I understand that.  Most teams go for BPA though, no?

 

[CarltonTheBear]

OK, I understand that.  Most teams go for BPA though, no?

Not necessarily. As cw wrote earlier, Burke himself said the other day that given how close the prospects are in this draft he might not exactly go BPA.

 

[Tigger]

I suppose another way of saying that is they aren't sure who the bpa is there.

 

[Etiam Vultus]

OK, I understand that.  Most teams go for BPA though, no?

Not necessarily. As cw wrote earlier, Burke himself said the other day that given how close the prospects are in this draft he might not exactly go BPA.

Logically, would this not also increase the probability of the Leafs trading down i the draft?