GhostofPotvin29
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I'm officially locking in my hoped-for picks as either Galchenyuk or Forsberg.
TOP 5 PICK!!!
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maplesyrup
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It'll be interesting to see TSN's mock tonight. Reinhart and Dumba could be a real wild card here I think. If Murray goes to the Blue Jackets at two and Reinhart or Dumba goes to the Islanders are four, things could get quite sporty at five.
maplesyrup
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Potvin29 said:
Call me crazy but I'm not locked in to anyone right now. I just kind of want to go with who our scouts feel is the BPA, even if it's a defenseman which I know would be rather unpopular here.
Edit: Though I am rather fascinated with the enigma that is Grigorenko. I just like that he's got the size with that skill in what is clearly a position of need with this organization.
Bullfrog
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Potvin29 said:
Same, though I'm definitely hoping for Galchenyuk. Also, I have to agree with SGT here:
SGT said:
Galchenyuk is my favourite for sure. Though I'll admit this is based solely on what I've read from scouting agencies, etc. I've barely seen any of these guys play.
GhostofPotvin29
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If Grigorenko was worth a pick he would have got injured with a real North American-type injury like a torn ACL, not this wimpy "mono". 8)
Peter D.
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I was listening to Pierre McGuire on TSN1050 on the way in to work and it got me thinking:
I'm of the camp that the Leafs almost have to draft a forward on Friday. But let's say the Leafs end up drafting a d-man such as Murray (whether by moving up or him somehow [doubtful] sliding based on teams jockeying). Could that be Burke's way of making a guy like Schenn more available to fill a hole up front in a deal, perhaps a bigger one, as there'd be a replacement in tow?
I'm of the camp that the Leafs almost have to draft a forward on Friday. But let's say the Leafs end up drafting a d-man such as Murray (whether by moving up or him somehow [doubtful] sliding based on teams jockeying). Could that be Burke's way of making a guy like Schenn more available to fill a hole up front in a deal, perhaps a bigger one, as there'd be a replacement in tow?
BlueWhiteBlood
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Peter D. said:
I believe that Burke already has the assets on the blueline to move in order to upgrade the forwards. He has Franson, Gunnarsson or Schenn that he could move in a deal to acquire a forward IMO.
If we land Shultz, that just gives us another defenseman to move somebody else. Burke just absolutely has to move a blueliner at some point before the season starts and I believe wholeheartedly, that he will no doubt pick a forward at the draft.
The thing with Grigorenko, is that even if he he doesn't go to the KHL, there's a chance that the the KHL simply existing can interfere with contract negotiations in the future and cause us to have to pay more to keep him around.
Kind of like what's happening in Winnipeg with Pavelec.
Kind of like what's happening in Winnipeg with Pavelec.
BlueWhiteBlood
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Erndog said:
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Chev-boyar-sky
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I know it's "sexy" and all to get a forward, but I can't shake this feeling that Murray will be a Top 5 D-man in the league for years to come. Considering Toronto's lack of any kind of defence the last 5 years, I'd be happy drafting Murray, signing Schultz and moving D from there.
The guy's drawn comparisons to Nieds, was not at all out of place at the Worlds according to Tambellini (?), and is what this team is sorely lacking: a defenceman who's a stud at both ends (we seem to have a bunch of 1 enders, as it were).
I'll be happy enough with a top 5 pick forward (mainly Forsberg, Galchenyuk or Yakupov), but my gut says Murray will prove to be one of the best picks of this draft.
The guy's drawn comparisons to Nieds, was not at all out of place at the Worlds according to Tambellini (?), and is what this team is sorely lacking: a defenceman who's a stud at both ends (we seem to have a bunch of 1 enders, as it were).
I'll be happy enough with a top 5 pick forward (mainly Forsberg, Galchenyuk or Yakupov), but my gut says Murray will prove to be one of the best picks of this draft.
Corn Flake
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SGT said:
Because he has the same questions Angelo Esposito had and look where he ended up. Teams are vary wary of guys with possible effort issues. If the Leafs did their homework on this kid they would know more of the real story than we would. So would most other teams.
LeafsInSeven
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The usual clich? is to "take the best available player" but it always should apply. As for taking a defenseman in the 2012 draft to address years of inept defensive performance in Toronto, that's short-sighted and perhaps a little bit incorrect. In my opinion, the Leafs' lousy defensive record is every bit the fault of the forwards as the defensemen. I'd like to see an overhaul of the forward group first before assuming the defensemen and the goalies are the problem with this team.
They had a scout on the Team 1200 last night, Grant McKegg. He had some interesting points.
1. At the end of the day, he thinks that Galchenyuk or Teravainen may be the most talented players to come out of this draft
2. Right now, Yakupov is the best player available, but in a couple of years, may not be.
3. Grigerenko did not display the type of compete level that you would hope to see in a top 5 prospect.
4. All drafts are crapshoots, but this one more so due to the number of players rated to be top picks that suffered injuries throughout the year. Made it hard to see their progression.
1. At the end of the day, he thinks that Galchenyuk or Teravainen may be the most talented players to come out of this draft
2. Right now, Yakupov is the best player available, but in a couple of years, may not be.
3. Grigerenko did not display the type of compete level that you would hope to see in a top 5 prospect.
4. All drafts are crapshoots, but this one more so due to the number of players rated to be top picks that suffered injuries throughout the year. Made it hard to see their progression.
lamajama said:
How would trading down get a player that is ready?
Or does he mean, move the 5th for, say the 10th and an NHL player? If that is true, I'm not sure how much of an impact that player could likely have if their team is willing to deal them to move up a handful of spots?