TOP 5 PICK!!!

[Etiam Vultus]

Brophy on Fan590 today at Noon said he expects Burke to come back with NHL ready players and that means trading the pick or trading down and getting a player who is ready.

Two scenarios that make me puke.

How would trading down get a player that is ready?

Or does he mean, move the 5th for, say the 10th and an NHL player?  If that is true, I'm not sure how much of an impact that player could likely have if their team is willing to deal them to move up a handful of spots?

I did not hear the interview, but have found that the term "trading down" can be ambiguous.  It generally means trading to a later time in the draft, but is ocassionally used to mean to trade down to a lower number, such as from pick 5 to pick 1.

 

[Redleaf]

Brophy on Fan590 today at Noon said he expects Burke to come back with NHL ready players and that means trading the pick or trading down and getting a player who is ready.

Two scenarios that make me puke.

Depends on who the pick is for.  I can stomach the 5th going for Staal or Nash.  For some reason, less so if it goes in a deal for Luongo.

I really don't think the Leafs have to part with that pick to make the Luongo deal. I see it happening for smaller pieces than a top 5 pick. Maybe Burke has plans to swap the #5 in another deal. Best case scenario would be in a package for J. Staal or E. Kane.  ;D

 

[BlueWhiteBlood]

I'd give up that pick in a deal for Staal, probably no other available player. He's the kind of center we need right now and the only reason I'd give it up for him is because of his young age.

 

[Guru Tugginmypuddah]

I'd give up that pick in a deal for Staal, probably no other available player. He's the kind of center we need right now and the only reason I'd give it up for him is because of his young age.

Not unless Staal signs an extension first.

 

[Corn Flake]

There's a mock draft on yahoo sports right now. The have the top 5:

Yakupov
Forsberg
Grigorenko
Galchenyuk
Murray

Mock drafts and scouting reports are like flies on poop right now.  Driving me nuts and I'm ignoring all of them because nearly every one is a total uneducated guess.

 

[Jalili]

They had a scout on the Team 1200 last night, Grant McKegg.  He had some interesting points.

1.  At the end of the day, he thinks that Galchenyuk or Teravainen may be the most talented players to come out of this draft
2.  Right now, Yakupov is the best player available, but in a couple of years, may not be.
3.  Grigerenko did not display the type of compete level that you would hope to see in a top 5 prospect.
4.  All drafts are crapshoots, but this one more so due to the number of players rated to be top picks that suffered injuries throughout the year.  Made it hard to see their progression.

The more scouting reports I hear about Grigerenko and his so called lack of compete level, the more I see Burke taking a pass on him. I also see a KHL flight risk with this guy. PASS.

I'm expecting them to pass on grigorenko as well.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

Brophy on Fan590 today at Noon said he expects Burke to come back with NHL ready players and that means trading the pick or trading down and getting a player who is ready.

Two scenarios that make me puke.

Well done Brophy:

Dan Rosen ‏@drosennhl

Burke said he has had no discussions about trading up to get Edmonton's No. 1 pick. He isn't looking for a guy to play right away at No. 5.

 

[maplesyrup]

I don't think I'm going out on a limb by saying I think we'll wind up with either Grigorenko, Galchenyuk, or Forsberg (assuming we keep the pick) and perhaps rather oddly, I really can't say I feel more strongly about one over another. I suppose that's a good thing.

 

[Redleaf]

I don't think I'm going out on a limb by saying I think we'll wind up with either Grigorenko, Galchenyuk, or Forsberg (assuming we keep the pick) and perhaps rather oddly, I really can't say I feel more strongly about one over another. I suppose that's a good thing.

Burke is in no position to roll the dice on what looks to be the biggest risk/reward pick of the entire draft in Grigorenko. I would be very surprised if he took the gamble on this guy myself.

My guess is that their short list includes:
Yakupov
Galchenyuk
Forsberg
Murray
Dumba

 

[maplesyrup]

Grigorenko's "issues" just don't scare me enough I guess.

 

[maplesyrup]

I'd be fine with Murray and wouldn't hate Dumba either.

 

[Jalili]

I'm not sure if this is true or not, it was posted at hfboards so take it fwiw, but grigorenko flew to a few cities to visit several teams in the top 5 and the leafs were definitely not one of them.

I don't know hardly anything about this years prospects but I wouldn't mind forsberg at all. Generally speaking the swedes have had very positive development in recent years and seem to be low risk high reward.

 

[Corn Flake]

I would be stunned if Burke selected Grigorenko.  I really would.  Doesn't fit the mold even if he had a good playoff.  The fact his KHL rights are owned by the wealthiest club in the league will scare teams.  Burke isn't going to have interest in this guy... we can almost bank on it.

Forsberg is a fairly feisty player and I'm sure is far closer to what he wants if he's going to draft a skill guy who may need a few years to develop.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

The thing I don't like is that now the KHL will influence the $$ he gets from an NHL team in the future because the threat will be there.

 

[maplesyrup]

I would be stunned if Burke selected Grigorenko.  I really would.  Doesn't fit the mold even if he had a good playoff.  The fact his KHL rights are owned by the wealthiest club in the league will scare teams.  Burke isn't going to have interest in this guy... we can almost bank on it.

This guy could be the steal of the draft if he slips out of the top five. I don't think there's any question about that. I'm fine with a safer pick too though.

 

[Guru Tugginmypuddah]

I would be stunned if Burke selected Grigorenko.  I really would.  Doesn't fit the mold even if he had a good playoff.  The fact his KHL rights are owned by the wealthiest club in the league will scare teams.  Burke isn't going to have interest in this guy... we can almost bank on it.

This guy could be the steal of the draft if he slips out of the top five. I don't think there's any question about that. I'm fine with a safer pick too though.

He's got Yashin written all over him.

 

[maplesyrup]

I would be stunned if Burke selected Grigorenko.  I really would.  Doesn't fit the mold even if he had a good playoff.  The fact his KHL rights are owned by the wealthiest club in the league will scare teams.  Burke isn't going to have interest in this guy... we can almost bank on it.

This guy could be the steal of the draft if he slips out of the top five. I don't think there's any question about that. I'm fine with a safer pick too though.

He's got Yashin written all over him.

I don't think that's fair at all. None of us know what'll happen. 

 

[Kin]

I like that a guy who scored 781 NHL points over 12 seasons is being used as a benchmark for a terrible misfire.

 

[Kin]

Burke is in no position to roll the dice on what looks to be the biggest risk/reward pick of the entire draft in Grigorenko.

I don't see how that follows. The Leafs have, by most accounts, a lot of depth in the system. They've drafted a lot of safe guys in recent years. They have a pressing need for elite talent. To me that says a team that's almost uniquely suited to draft a high risk/high reward prospect.

 

[Guru Tugginmypuddah]

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