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What's wrong with Schenn?

Healthy scratch tonight... Not good. How does this guy get his mojo back? Benching him certainly can't be the answer - can it?

Edit: Interesting...

FriedgeHNIC Elliotte Friedman Wilson says that Komisarek is +9 since being sat for Boston game, trying the same thing "to reset" Schenn
 
He's had this coming for awhile. Quite frankly the coaching staff has been more than patient with him. They've done everything short of the pressbox.

In my mind this is better for him than the 9 & 10 minutes of ice-time he's been given lately. I think that is more humiliating than being a healthy scratch - marginally. Call it a mental break - a bit of R&R to regroup himself.

The good news is, the team is tops in the NHL even with him playing this poorly. That said, they are going to need him at some point, better to get it sorted now than when the team is in a tough patch.
 
I respect Roberts' opinion and all, but, really, the only Leafs who doesn't look stronger and faster to me is Schenn - every one else looks to have improved (or at least, maintained) in those areas. Schenn's training regime may have been wrong, but, I'd say Wilson is right about the rest of the team.
 
Busta Reims said:
I respect Roberts' opinion and all, but, really, the only Leafs who doesn't look stronger and faster to me is Schenn - every one else looks to have improved (or at least, maintained) in those areas. Schenn's training regime may have been wrong, but, I'd say Wilson is right about the rest of the team.
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I'd say Kulemin definitely doesn't look as good as last year. I'd say it's also his ability to get open looks/shots in the offensive zone which is suffering. Whether that's a mental/behavioural  thing or a "I'm not fast enough to get to the open spaces" thing isn't clear to me.

Would you attribute Kessel or Lupul's improved play to conditioning and strength? Or just comfort and chemistry?
 
It's also time to get your 7th dman in a game and right now there are 5 other starting Leaf dman playing better than Schenn.  This is Schenn's fourth season now and the Leafs are first place in the league.  Hurting someones feelings isn't something we need to worry about this season, making the playoffs is what we should be concerned about.
 
Strangelove said:
Being 'young' can only be an excuse for poor play for so long.
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Yes. That's true. It can only be an excuse so long as a player is still young.

It is rare for the kind of player that Schenn is to be in the league at his age, let alone being very good at his age. That he's been in the line-up for a few years doesn't make him old.
 
Saint Nik said:
Strangelove said:
Being 'young' can only be an excuse for poor play for so long.
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Yes. That's true. It can only be an excuse so long as a player is still young.

It is rare for the kind of player that Schenn is to be in the league at his age, let alone being very good at his age. That he's been in the line-up for a few years doesn't make him old.
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One would, however, hope to see evidence of a coherent development in his game.  I just don't see that.  To me, Schenn looks much the same as he did when he entered the league, withstanding his ability to stickhandle the puck, which looks worse (I chalk that up to a lack of confidence).  The fact that he continues to have gaping holes in all aspects of his game is reason for serious concern.
 
Strangelove said:
One would, however, hope to see evidence of a coherent development in his game.
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You might, but the reality is that very few players have straight lines of progression and it still doesn't change that you shouldn't judge a young player harsher if he's in the NHL than if he'd been in juniors/the AHL.
 
Saint Nik said:
Strangelove said:
One would, however, hope to see evidence of a coherent development in his game.
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You might, but the reality is that very few players have straight lines of progression and it still doesn't change that you shouldn't judge a young player harsher if he's in the NHL than if he'd been in juniors/the AHL.
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I have to agree with this. Sometimes it can be two steps forward, one step back so to speak. Even some of the more overall consistent vets go through periods of inconsistency in a season, they just have more experience in terms of knowing what it takes to bounce back.
 
well after watching last nights game Frazen is not the answer either. He did not impress me in any way. Schenn, has been bad yes. but the mess that happened last evening, no one would of helped.
 
Saint Nik said:
Strangelove said:
One would, however, hope to see evidence of a coherent development in his game.
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You might, but the reality is that very few players have straight lines of progression and it still doesn't change that you shouldn't judge a young player harsher if he's in the NHL than if he'd been in juniors/the AHL.
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I agree that we shouldn't judge Schenn harsher than we would a similarly aged defenseman in the minors.  By the same token, however, we shouldn't continue to feel excited about his future just because he happens to play on the NHL squad rather than the Marlies.  The fact that he is currently a slow, clumsy player does not bode particularly well for what's to come.
 
Schenn might have some personal issues that are messing up his game.  When serious things happen in your life, your career will not seem as important.
 
Strangelove said:
By the same token, however, we shouldn't continue to feel excited about his future just because he happens to play on the NHL squad rather than the Marlies.
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I'd agree if I thought for a second that anyone was doing that. I think the people who are excited about his future are so because of the potential he's shown while playing in the NHL. He's been a 20+ minute a night guy since he was 18, providing a physical presence and blocking shots.

Last season he led the team in blocked shots, SH ice time and led all NHL defensemen in hits. Raising serious questions about his long-term potential because of a rough start to the season, and even that I think is overblown, doesn't strike me as being justified.
 
Rebel_1812 said:
Schenn might have some personal issues that are messing up his game.  When serious things happen in your life, your career will not seem as important.
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I don't think that entirely baseless speculation in that regard helps matters much.
 
7 healthy defencemen on the team.Someone will always have to sit out a game or two. Burke won't be able to show off a player to a team in need of a defenceman if he is sitting in the pressbox, and my guess is Schenn won't be being traded any time soon. Maybe it is just that simple.
 
Is it a coincidence that Franson seems to play in the games where the Leafs are brutal?  He's got bad luck.
 
Bates said:
Leading the last place pk in time is probably not a good stat to hang on Schenn.
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That would probably be true if it weren't for the fact that we'd, you know, watched Schenn earn that time.
 
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