GhostofPotvin29
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Ho-hum - Boston beats New Jersey 6-1, then tonight up 6-0 on Calgary not even halfway through the 2nd period.
2011-2012 NHL Thread
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GhostofPotvin29
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Zee said:
This game is 9-0 now.
bustaheims
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Potvin29 said:
Boston is very good and Calgary is pretty bad.
drummond said:
I was going to post the same thing. So they have scored exactly twice the number of goals as their opposition. Trivia question: when is the last time after having played 37 or more, a team has doubled their opposition goals?
Since November 1, they are 23-3-1.
The Kessel trade didn't help the Bruins win their first cup, but it might help them win the second.
hockeyfan1
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princedpw said:
Any ideas on how to stop the Boston juggernaut?
dappleganger
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princedpw said:
They would probably be better with Phil on their roster.
Kin
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princedpw said:
I don't know how you figure the Kessel trade didn't help them win their first cup. The Kessel trade got them cap space, which they used on contributing players, added to their stockpile of picks/prospects which let them deal for contributing players and gave them a player on the cup winning roster, even if his role was minimal.
The Red Polar Bear
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Saint Nik said:
You know, I was originally going to just post this picture without any text as a response to the part bolded above:
Then I found this picture on google and felt it had to be included:
L K
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princedpw said:
It's a lot worse than just their utter domination since the start of November:
October - 3-7-0 - 18 GF 25 GA
Rest of year - 23-3-1 120 GF 44 GA
They have pretty much tripled their opponents in scoring over the past two months. A shatteringly high 4.44 GF/game vs. 1.63 GA/game.
The one caveat I will say is that they have had a surprisingly easy schedule for the past two months:
Toronto x3; NYI x2; Ottawa x2; Buffalo x2; New Jersey x2; Columbus x2; Montreal x2; Winnipeg x2; Phoenix x1; Calgary x1; Dallas x1; Edmonton x1
vs.
Pittsburgh x1; Philadelphia x1; Los Angeles x1; Detroit x1; Florida x2
A little arbitrary on good team vs. weaker team comparison as LA is also a borderline playoff team, but most of their opponents have been in the bottom half of the league for 2 consecutive months (and to be honest, given the schedule and predictions, are pretty much teams that you would expect to be in their current positions).
Mind you in those 6 games they are 4-1-1 with a 22:5 GF/GA ratio.
GhostofPotvin29
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Saint Nik said:
Which contributing players did they add with the cap space? Don't know a whole lot about how Boston's roster was put together.
groundskeeper willie
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Potvin29 said:
I think Nathan Horton was supposed to be the direct Kessel replacement.
Corn Flake
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groundskeeper willie said:
For the record... there was a season in between the Kessel trade and the cup win where Boston was ousted by Philli and generally didn't make it in because of a huge lack of scoring (and an epic collapse).
They didn't really have any cap space the year they dealt Kessel. Two years later the cap went way up, they unloaded some contracts (Corvo and another I think) and were able to pick up Horton and a few others.. the Savard LTIR I think contributed greatly during the season, leading to the Peverly trade.
Saint Nik said:
Here's how I figured it: It didn't help in the sense that the specific assets they obtained in return for Kessel from the Leafs played little in the playoffs for them. (Of course, Seguin played some, but I think on a message board, one is typically allowed some leniency in the precision of one's posts without being attacked for semantic infelicity.) Yes, they obtained cap space by not signing Kessel and used that cap space to sign other players. That worked out very well for them -- the use of that cap space was valuable to them. However, that cap space was trivial for them to obtain without making that trade with the leafs -- they could have simply not signed Kessel (or they could have given away his RFA rights to some other team for a lesser return). So amend my post so that it states the specific trade "didn't help MUCH" if you insist.
bustaheims
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Saint Nik said:
The help it provided to them was more of an indirect result of the trade than a direct one. It didn't free up any cap space, as Kessel was unsigned and, well before the deal was made, Boston appeared to have come to terms with the fact he wasn't going to be in the fold and had already spent that cap space. The extra assets may have provided them with more leniency to make the deals they made, but, they didn't necessarily create the opportunities. They very well still could have made the other deals they made without the assets brought in from the Kessel deal - none of the picks or prospects drafted with those picks were moved and, a team that felt they were so close to the Cup may still have been willing to sacrifice the assets they did in order to achieve that goal (they certainly wouldn't have been the first club in history to do so). The deal gave them a little more wiggle room, but, that's really about it when it comes to their Cup win this past summer.