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2011-2012 Waivers thread

BlueWhiteBlood said:
Busta Reims said:
princedpw said:
Why don't we pick him up?  I think he'd better than Frattin (not that I dislike Frattin, it just seems like he might benefit from time in the AHL).  If he isn't better -- send him back down again.  Perhaps trade him at the deadline.
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Partly because he's not the type of 3rd liner the Leafs need - he's not particularly big (though, he not small, either), and he's not particularly physical. On top of that, Frattin is already just a temporary fix until Armstrong and/or Connolly get healthy. On top of that, he'd take up the team's last reserve list spot, which makes any future waiver claims problematic. He also can't be traded this season without being offered back to any other teams putting in a waiver claim on him for free (though, were he to make it all the way to the Leafs, that would mean pretty much no one else put in a claim). As much as I liked Hagman in his time here, he's just not a good fit for the Leafs right now.
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That and the last thing we need is yet another winger. We need to hold steadfast and wait for a number one center to become available. That is the answer to almost any acquisition question, regardless of how long we wait for that guy. Unless injuries happen of course, but I can't see a situation where the Leafs burn through all of our players, along with the call-ups we have available to us.
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The SPC limit is something I hadn't thought of.... But still, I don't think we'll be getting that 1st line center through waivers ...
 
princedpw said:
The SPC limit is something I hadn't thought of.... But still, I don't think we'll be getting that 1st line center through waivers ...
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I certainly wasn't trying to imply that we were waiting to get a first liner via waivers. I was saying any player transaction.

The only way we were to target a winger IMO, is that one is involved in a trade for a better player, or in a trade for that top line center we covet. We have a slew of wingers available to bring up from the Marlies. If we were to target any winger, he'd have to be better than the one he would replace and that doesn't look realistic with the players that have been available in the past via trade or waivers.
 
princedpw said:
The SPC limit is something I hadn't thought of....
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Beyond waivers, the SPC spot for example, could help Burke take back a salary in a larger deal that could actually impact the talent on the team. It gives Burke some flexibility. Burke could find other ways to clear a SPC spot but that can be an additional complication when he's trying to pull the trigger on a deal. I wouldn't waste the last SPC spot on Hagman either.
 
BlueWhiteBlood said:
princedpw said:
The SPC limit is something I hadn't thought of.... But still, I don't think we'll be getting that 1st line center through waivers ...
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I certainly wasn't trying to imply that we were waiting to get a first liner via waivers. I was saying any player transaction.
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Sure.  I just had to throw something back at yah.  :-)
 
Floyd said:
Hagman on re-entry... I wonder of Anaheim would put in a claim as a replacement for Blake... All fin line - Hagman/Koivu/Selanne
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Correct!

The Ducks claimed hagman on re-entry per Bob Mckenize.
 
Corn Flake said:
Floyd said:
Corn Flake said:
Bergfors on waivers.

Sarge drooling yet? :P
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I still ask why not? What would it hurt?
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But he has to help matters to be worth it.  So for him to not hurt... why would he help?
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We have a lot of guys on the shelf right now and Bergfors is as cheap as they come. We can keep rolling out Orr and Rosehill when guys go down but Bergfors strikes me as guy with enough talent to see if he can put it together in another system. Why not ours?   
 
Floyd said:
We have a lot of guys on the shelf right now and Bergfors is as cheap as they come. We can keep rolling out Orr and Rosehill when guys go down but Bergfors strikes me as guy with enough talent to see if he can put it together in another system. Why not ours? 
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Well, MacArthur's back tonight, so, that eliminates the need for an top 6 winger - especially one that hasn't shown an ability to produce under pressure, when called upon or with any sort of consistency. Unless you really want to add a soft, small, inconsistent, defensively questionable 3rd liner with the team's last reserve list opening . . .
 
Floyd said:
Corn Flake said:
Floyd said:
Corn Flake said:
Bergfors on waivers.

Sarge drooling yet? :P
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I still ask why not? What would it hurt?
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But he has to help matters to be worth it.  So for him to not hurt... why would he help?
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We have a lot of guys on the shelf right now and Bergfors is as cheap as they come. We can keep rolling out Orr and Rosehill when guys go down but Bergfors strikes me as guy with enough talent to see if he can put it together in another system. Why not ours? 
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I'd rather give guys like Kadri and Colborne a shot if we have further injuries to forwards.
 
I would have been all over it last year, not so much this year which has more to do with the Leafs than Bergfors.
 
Hey, I'm obviously no scout nor have I paid any attention to Bergfors this year for that matter. He's just one of those guys I've been strangely intrigued with and the price is obviously right for me.  :-\   
 
Floyd said:
Hey, I'm obviously no scout nor have I paid any attention to Bergfors this year for that matter. He's just one of those guys I've been strangely intrigued with and the price is obviously right for me.  :-\ 
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If MacArthur wasn't coming back I'd probably be more inclined to agree with the Leafs picking him up and you're right, the price is pretty fair. :)
 
Busta Reims said:
Floyd said:
We have a lot of guys on the shelf right now and Bergfors is as cheap as they come. We can keep rolling out Orr and Rosehill when guys go down but Bergfors strikes me as guy with enough talent to see if he can put it together in another system. Why not ours? 
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Well, MacArthur's back tonight, so, that eliminates the need for an top 6 winger - especially one that hasn't shown an ability to produce under pressure, when called upon or with any sort of consistency. Unless you really want to add a soft, small, inconsistent, defensively questionable 3rd liner with the team's last reserve list opening . . .
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I've seen his name for years. I don't recall seeing much in games he played and therefore, don't know tons about him.

He's been a plus player once in NA (in AHL and NHL) and the plus season was a 20 game stop in Florida. He's had a number of stops along the way. He's been traded twice and dumped twice.

Those things would set off some alarms for me.

We have plenty of lightweights with skill. I'd rather Kadri get development ice time if needed as I doubt most are ready to give up on Kadri just yet.
 
TSNBobMcKenzie Bob McKenzie
Tampa puts Blair Jones on waivers. NSH's Niclas Bergfors clears waivers.
5 minutes ago

I guess that's close to being it for Bergfoes then. Too bad he couldn't put it together.
 
Floyd said:
TSNBobMcKenzie Bob McKenzie
Tampa puts Blair Jones on waivers. NSH's Niclas Bergfors clears waivers.
5 minutes ago

I guess that's close to being it for Bergfoes then. Too bad he couldn't put it together.
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In one quick glance of his stats yesterday, I said to myself "this guy will do better in Europe .."

It remains sad to see guys fall short. For a lot of them, it was their dream. For guys like Bergfors, he got tantalizingly close to making a career of it in the NHL.

Felt the same way for Jeremy Williams the other day when I saw he's been playing in Austria - a rocket of a NHL shot but not enough game beyond that ...
 
kausatoday Kevin Allen
NY Islanders have placed Blake Comeau on waivers
1 minute ago
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BDGallof BDGallof
Comeau's play was so putrid, he played himself off one of the worst teams in the league. Something people tend to forget #isles
 
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