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2019-2020 Toronto Maple Leafs General Discussion

You can read through this to see how the numbers are developed in the regression model via NHL source data and what it really means at a quantitative level, if you so choose.
https://hockey-graphs.com/2019/01/14/reviving-regularized-adjusted-plus-minus-for-hockey/

For most people, it's just a smoothed-out, normalized, gauge of how a player has performed relative to the average. It's not entirely ever going to 100% isolate a player's individual impact (thanks to hockey being hockey), but it comes pretty darn close and applies the same regularization to all players.
 
herman said:
https://theathletic.com/1415622/2019/12/11/scratched-to-prime-time-justin-holls-rise-with-the-leafs-is-a-study-in-perseverance/
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Just need to develop these freebie guys all the time and give them NHL opportunities at the leading edge of their peaks while they're cheap and spin them off for assets. Even if they only last a year or two.

Dubas and Keefe (and Marlies coaching staff) had been clamouring for Holl to get a crack at the lineup for years now.
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You know that is because Dubas is such and idiot and spent all that money on just 3 players...what a dunce.
 
What to do when Moore gets back, I like his energy and hustle but the last 6 games he played before he went down were not that great.  Probably better than Petan and Timashov.
 
Highlander said:
What to do when Moore gets back, I like his energy and hustle but the last 6 games he played before he went down were not that great.  Probably better than Petan and Timashov.
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Of the cusp forwards, Engvall is the keeper of the bunch (over Timashov, Aberg, Petan, and the Goat). Not sure if the $$$ work for that, though.
 
Hobbes said:
Highlander said:
What to do when Moore gets back, I like his energy and hustle but the last 6 games he played before he went down were not that great.  Probably better than Petan and Timashov.
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Of the cusp forwards, Engvall is the keeper of the bunch (over Timashov, Aberg, Petan, and the Goat). Not sure if the $$$ work for that, though.
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Once (if?) we're fully healthy I think one way to keep Engvall is to run a 20-man roster with a likely 4th line of Engvall-Spezza-Moore. This would mean Gauthier and Timashov both get waived and get sent to the Marlies along with Petan/Aberg/Marincin.

It looks like the only way to have a 21-man roster would be to waive Moore (and send down those 3 other bodies) and have a 4th line+spare forward that consists of Engvall/Spezza/Gauthier/Timashov.

It's a tough call. I've been really impressed with what Engvall has done so far, and I think Keefe has too based on how much he's played him and where, but I don't know if having him play limited minutes on the team is worth running a 20-man roster or potentially losing a good depth player like Moore to waivers.
 
Timashov will have to clear waivers and I don't want that to happen as he will be picked up, too bad Babs gave him a shot too early in his development cycle. Now either he has to stick or be traded.  I am OK with traded as long as Ceci Ryder goes long.
 
https://twitter.com/kristen_shilton/status/1205572438991331328

Nylander on the left of Matthews/Kapanen, Moore seems potentially ready to return, and Muzzin had a "maintenance" day.
 
Highlander said:
Timashov will have to clear waivers and I don't want that to happen as he will be picked up, too bad Babs gave him a shot too early in his development cycle. Now either he has to stick or be traded.  I am OK with traded as long as Ceci Ryder goes long.
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Doesn't he have to stick on another team anyway? I.E. if he gets sent down again doesn't he go on the waiver wire again? What team would rather have him on the regular roster vs. someone else?
 
Bender said:
Doesn't he have to stick on another team anyway? I.E. if he gets sent down again doesn't he go on the waiver wire again? What team would rather have him on the regular roster vs. someone else?
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He'd have to be on their roster, but not in their line-up. So a team just needs to think he's better than their 13rd or in some cases 14th forward. I don't think it's a slam dunk that he'd get claimed on waivers if he were placed there, but it wouldn't exactly surprise me either.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
https://twitter.com/kristen_shilton/status/1205572438991331328

Nylander on the left of Matthews/Kapanen, Moore seems potentially ready to return, and Muzzin had a "maintenance" day.
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It would make sense to me to play nylander at center and Matthews on the left.  Nylander kinda plays like a center anyway much of the time.
 
herman said:
https://twitter.com/mapleleafs/status/1206354701169639425
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You know people keep saying this must mean Barrie is healthy. But maybe they actually want to potentially bring up Liljegren due to handedness instead anyway?

Edit* Or Marincin?
 
Bender said:
You know people keep saying this must mean Barrie is healthy. But maybe they actually want to potentially bring up Liljegren due to handedness instead anyway?

Edit* Or Marincin?
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Yeah I don't think it'd be a bad idea to give Liljegren a shot if Barrie has to miss a game or two. We're basically banking on him being a full-time NHLer next season so giving him a taste of the NHL could be beneficial.
 
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