Contracts for the Big-3

[Zee]

IMO

Nylander is worth 6.2 -6.5
Marner is worth 7 - 7.5
Matthews is worth 9.0 - 9.5

John has proven he can do it year in year out, but honestly I dont think he is worth 11 mil. No player in the league is worth that. But I do think Kadri is better then Nylander.

Just throwing that out there.

McDavid is worth that and more.

No player in the league is worth that much.

McDavid is

 

[freer]

IMO

Nylander is worth 6.2 -6.5
Marner is worth 7 - 7.5
Matthews is worth 9.0 - 9.5

John has proven he can do it year in year out, but honestly I dont think he is worth 11 mil. No player in the league is worth that. But I do think Kadri is better then Nylander.

Just throwing that out there.

McDavid is worth that and more.

No player in the league is worth that much.

McDavid is

No player is worth more in one year, then the average person earns in a life.

 

[Zee]

IMO

Nylander is worth 6.2 -6.5
Marner is worth 7 - 7.5
Matthews is worth 9.0 - 9.5

John has proven he can do it year in year out, but honestly I dont think he is worth 11 mil. No player in the league is worth that. But I do think Kadri is better then Nylander.

Just throwing that out there.

McDavid is worth that and more.

No player in the league is worth that much.

McDavid is

No player is worth more in one year, then the average person earns in a life.

This is sports where people make a lot of money. Games shouldn't cost a few hundred to watch but they do. It's called capitalism, some people make a ton of money doing different things. I'm terms of the value of players on an NHL team, McDavid is worth every penny he's making

 

[hockeyfan1]

Tavares on the Nylander impasse:

?It?s a negotiation, and things take their own time, their own process, and sometimes there?s some tough moments through it,? Tavares noted about Nylander. ?I think at the end of the day, things will get resolved, and I?m looking forward to hopefully having Willy here as soon as he can.?

https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/maple-leafs-tavares-advice-teammates-negotiating-contracts-155006306.html

 

[Kin]

IMO

Nylander is worth 6.2 -6.5
Marner is worth 7 - 7.5
Matthews is worth 9.0 - 9.5

John has proven he can do it year in year out, but honestly I dont think he is worth 11 mil. No player in the league is worth that. But I do think Kadri is better then Nylander.

Just throwing that out there.

McDavid is worth that and more.

No player in the league is worth that much.

McDavid is

No player is worth more in one year, then the average person earns in a life.

So no player in the league is worth more than the average person makes in a lifetime, but even assuming someone makes 100k a year, which is way more than the average, they would only make 5 million dollars if they worked for 50 years. So all of what you said Marner, Nylander and Matthews are worth is already way, way more than the average person would earn in a lifetime.

I really don't understand what thought process could arrive at "No player should earn 11 million a year because that's an obscene amount of money but 9 million, sure".

 

[CarltonTheBear]

No player is worth more in one year, then the average person earns in a life.

This is sports where people make a lot of money. Games shouldn't cost a few hundred to watch but they do. It's called capitalism, some people make a ton of money doing different things. I'm terms of the value of players on an NHL team, McDavid is worth every penny he's making

Nobody tell freer how much Jeff Bezos is "worth".

 

[Zee]

No player is worth more in one year, then the average person earns in a life.

This is sports where people make a lot of money. Games shouldn't cost a few hundred to watch but they do. It's called capitalism, some people make a ton of money doing different things. I'm terms of the value of players on an NHL team, McDavid is worth every penny he's making

Nobody tell freer how much Jeff Bezos is "worth".

I mean I understand the sentiment, I hate the fact that people are starving in the world while others are rich because they make YouTube videos playing video games and millions of kids watch them. It's a messed up society, but you can't look at that and say "no hockey player is worth X amount of money". When comparing the market value of hockey players, McDavid is absolutely worth all the money he's getting and in fact is even underpaid

 

[princedpw]

IMO

Nylander is worth 6.2 -6.5
Marner is worth 7 - 7.5
Matthews is worth 9.0 - 9.5

John has proven he can do it year in year out, but honestly I dont think he is worth 11 mil. No player in the league is worth that. But I do think Kadri is better then Nylander.

Just throwing that out there.

McDavid is worth that and more.

No player in the league is worth that much.

McDavid is

No player is worth more in one year, then the average person earns in a life.

This is why you should vote for progressives in your next election, particular if you live in the US. 

 

[Phileas Fogg]

No one should have pay more than $18 for a seat in the platinum level. And the beer should be free.

 

[princedpw]

No one should have pay more than $18 for a seat in the platinum level. And the beer should be free.

This seems unrelated. 

 

[Zee]

No one should have pay more than $18 for a seat in the platinum level. And the beer should be free.

I'm liking this, and all players should only make 80K

 

[Bender]

No player is worth more in one year, then the average person earns in a life.

This is sports where people make a lot of money. Games shouldn't cost a few hundred to watch but they do. It's called capitalism, some people make a ton of money doing different things. I'm terms of the value of players on an NHL team, McDavid is worth every penny he's making

Nobody tell freer how much Jeff Bezos is "worth".

I mean I understand the sentiment, I hate the fact that people are starving in the world while others are rich because they make YouTube videos playing video games and millions of kids watch them. It's a messed up society, but you can't look at that and say "no hockey player is worth X amount of money". When comparing the market value of hockey players, McDavid is absolutely worth all the money he's getting and in fact is even underpaid

These players are best in the world at something that has demand. That's literally it. If there were no market for it none of these guys would be making the same kind of money.

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[sickbeast]

The longer this goes on the more I feel that Nylander has bought himself a ticket out of town.  Shanahan's comments were pretty telling.  At this point Nylander can either back down and accept a lower deal than he wants, or he can pack his bags.  It's that simple.  And knowing his agent and his father, I'm really starting to feel like he's played his last game as a Leaf.

 

[ZBBM]

The longer this goes on the more I feel that Nylander has bought himself a ticket out of town.  Shanahan's comments were pretty telling.  At this point Nylander can either back down and accept a lower deal than he wants, or he can pack his bags.  It's that simple.  And knowing his agent and his father, I'm really starting to feel like he's played his last game as a Leaf.

Losing Nylander would be a disaster.  That's not going to happen.

 

[Guilt Trip]

The longer this goes on the more I feel that Nylander has bought himself a ticket out of town.  Shanahan's comments were pretty telling.  At this point Nylander can either back down and accept a lower deal than he wants, or he can pack his bags.  It's that simple.  And knowing his agent and his father, I'm really starting to feel like he's played his last game as a Leaf.

Losing Nylander would be a disaster.  That's not going to happen.

If Kappy could be a reliable replacement it wouldn't be. Matthews getting 8 points in 3 games with Ennis and now Kappy as his winger doesn't bode well for Nylander. I don't think the Leafs are going to budge much on their price. We are def better with him but the budget is the budget. Let's hope this gets done but I hope we get a good dose of Kappy with Matthews to see what he can do.

 

[OldTimeHockey]

The longer this goes on the more I feel that Nylander has bought himself a ticket out of town.  Shanahan's comments were pretty telling.  At this point Nylander can either back down and accept a lower deal than he wants, or he can pack his bags.  It's that simple.  And knowing his agent and his father, I'm really starting to feel like he's played his last game as a Leaf.

Losing Nylander would be a disaster.  That's not going to happen.

Do we think it would be that much of a disaster? I mean, yes, it would hurt the team and what it could be but  if someone told you that we could have almost the same roster as last year but instead of Nylander you'd have John Tavares, I think a lot of people would be very happy.

 

[Kin]

I mean I understand the sentiment, I hate the fact that people are starving in the world while others are rich because they make YouTube videos playing video games and millions of kids watch them. It's a messed up society, but you can't look at that and say "no hockey player is worth X amount of money". When comparing the market value of hockey players, McDavid is absolutely worth all the money he's getting and in fact is even underpaid
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I don't think it's reasonable to just sort of blame our "society" like it's not a reflection of the values people have and have always had. A lot of people think that the wealthiest athlete of all time isn't Tiger Woods or Michael Jordan but was Gaius Appulieus Diocles, a 2nd century charioteer. As a species, we've always been more interested in spending money to entertain ourselves than to give to the needy.

I'm sure it feels good to say that it's a perverse set of values that sees Athletes or Youtube stars get paid lots while people don't have enough food but there's nothing stopping any of us from not paying for Sportsnet or not buying Leafs jerseys or tickets and giving that money to the United Way. The problem is that's just not what peoples values actually are. For all the words that may be to the contrary, peoples values are really indicated by their own choices.

 

[Kin]

Do we think it would be that much of a disaster? I mean, yes, it would hurt the team and what it could be but  if someone told you that we could have almost the same roster as last year but instead of Nylander you'd have John Tavares, I think a lot of people would be very happy.

I think long-term it would be pretty bad. Last year's roster was nowhere near a contender and swapping Tavares for Nylander doesn't change that a bit.

 

[OldTimeHockey]

Do we think it would be that much of a disaster? I mean, yes, it would hurt the team and what it could be but  if someone told you that we could have almost the same roster as last year but instead of Nylander you'd have John Tavares, I think a lot of people would be very happy.

I think long-term it would be pretty bad. Last year's roster was nowhere near a contender and swapping Tavares for Nylander doesn't change that a bit.

I don't know about how bad it would be. Like I said, the team is worse today without both of them, but IMO is better with Tavares than with Nylander. I think Tavares brings far more to the table than Nylander does or will. That's just an opinion though.

 

[Kin]

I don't know about how bad it would be. Like I said, the team is worse today without both of them, but IMO is better with Tavares than with Nylander. I think Tavares brings far more to the table than Nylander does or will. That's just an opinion though.

That feels like a pretty incomplete equation though. Is the team marginally better with Tavares than Nylander? Probably. Is the team better with Tavares but without Nylander, JVR and Bozak? That seems far less likely to me. So to me, right now, I think the team is worse than it was last year and I think down the road, I'd probably rather have Nylander at 8 than Tavares at 11.