Draft Pick Watch - WE PICKED NYLANDER!!1!!

[GhostofPotvin29]

If Nylander and Ehlers are gone by 8. Maybe we could move down a few spots and pick up a 2nd round pick in process? Just a thought

I wouldn't really be opposed to that. 13 is probably the lowest that I would feel comfortable dropping though, and I'm not sure we could get a 2nd rounder in a swap like that.

No secret I'm a big McCann fan, so if that happened he'd be who I would target.

 

[bustaheims]

I wouldn't really be opposed to that. 13 is probably the lowest that I would feel comfortable dropping though, and I'm not sure we could get a 2nd rounder in a swap like that.

A 2nd round pick is pretty much the standard price to pay to move up a couple spots in the draft (outside the top 5, of course).

 

[CarltonTheBear]

A 2nd round pick is pretty much the standard price to pay to move up a couple spots in the draft (outside the top 5, of course).

I wasn't sure, but yeah last year San Jose went up to 18 from 20 for a 2nd rounder. So if we can get a 2nd round pick (which we didn't have last year, and don't have this year or next year) plus maybe even a bit more to drop down a bit I'd definitely look into it. All depending on how the scouts feel of course.

 

[Boston Leaf]

A 2nd round pick is pretty much the standard price to pay to move up a couple spots in the draft (outside the top 5, of course).

I wasn't sure, but yeah last year San Jose went up to 18 from 20 for a 2nd rounder. So if we can get a 2nd round pick (which we didn't have last year, and don't have this year or next year) plus maybe even a bit more to drop down a bit I'd definitely look into it. All depending on how the scouts feel of course.

Kind of what I thoguht. What did we give away to move up to take Burke's guy Biggs??

 

[CarltonTheBear]

A 2nd round pick is pretty much the standard price to pay to move up a couple spots in the draft (outside the top 5, of course).

I wasn't sure, but yeah last year San Jose went up to 18 from 20 for a 2nd rounder. So if we can get a 2nd round pick (which we didn't have last year, and don't have this year or next year) plus maybe even a bit more to drop down a bit I'd definitely look into it. All depending on how the scouts feel of course.

Kind of what I thoguht. What did we give away to move up to take Burke's guy Biggs??

*throws up*

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

A 2nd round pick is pretty much the standard price to pay to move up a couple spots in the draft (outside the top 5, of course).

I wasn't sure, but yeah last year San Jose went up to 18 from 20 for a 2nd rounder. So if we can get a 2nd round pick (which we didn't have last year, and don't have this year or next year) plus maybe even a bit more to drop down a bit I'd definitely look into it. All depending on how the scouts feel of course.

Kind of what I thoguht. What did we give away to move up to take Burke's guy Biggs??

Leafs traded the 30th and 39th picks to Anaheim for the 22nd pick.  Ducks picked John Gibson with that 39th pick.

 

[Bender]

A 2nd round pick is pretty much the standard price to pay to move up a couple spots in the draft (outside the top 5, of course).

I wasn't sure, but yeah last year San Jose went up to 18 from 20 for a 2nd rounder. So if we can get a 2nd round pick (which we didn't have last year, and don't have this year or next year) plus maybe even a bit more to drop down a bit I'd definitely look into it. All depending on how the scouts feel of course.

Kind of what I thoguht. What did we give away to move up to take Burke's guy Biggs??

Leafs traded the 30th and 39th picks to Anaheim for the 22nd pick.  Ducks picked John Gibson with that 39th pick.

*Sadness

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Leafs traded the 30th and 39th picks to Anaheim for the 22nd pick.  Ducks picked John Gibson with that 39th pick.

*Sadness

Looking at the list of guys taken in the 30-44 range is the most depressing thing ever. Rakell, Rattie, Jurco, Jenner were in the 30-38 range and Gibson, Saad, Ritchie 39-44. We could have had 1 from each group.

I liked Burke, but that was probably his biggest mistake.

 

[Joe S.]

What about Stastny? Isn't he a UFA?

More to the point: what does any of this have to do with this thread?

But since we are here, I do not trade JVR.

Really? You're picking on my post?

I brought this up because of the trading JVR to get a centre discussion.

 

[Champ Kind]

Looking at the list of guys taken in the 30-44 range is the most depressing thing ever. Rakell, Rattie, Jurco, Jenner were in the 30-38 range and Gibson, Saad, Ritchie 39-44. We could have had 1 from each group.

I liked Burke, but that was probably his biggest mistake.

You rang?

 

[CarltonTheBear]

You rang?

Nah, the Biggs thing was much worse. Komisarek was just a mediocre and overpaid defenceman that we had to put up with for basically just 3 seasons. I don't think that contract really did much damage to the long-term fortunes of the team.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

Leafs traded the 30th and 39th picks to Anaheim for the 22nd pick.  Ducks picked John Gibson with that 39th pick.

*Sadness

Looking at the list of guys taken in the 30-44 range is the most depressing thing ever. Rakell, Rattie, Jurco, Jenner were in the 30-38 range and Gibson, Saad, Ritchie 39-44. We could have had 1 from each group.

I liked Burke, but that was probably his biggest mistake.

Sure would be nice to hit gold with one of these 2nd or 3rd round picks one of these years.

 

[Kin]

You rang?

Nah, the Biggs thing was much worse. Komisarek was just a mediocre and overpaid defenceman that we had to put up with for basically just 3 seasons. I don't think that contract really did much damage to the long-term fortunes of the team.

Sure but given the draft record we're looking at, Burke being the guy who thought Biggs was worth moving up for, what are the odds if they stick at 30 and 39 that they make smart picks there?

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Sure but given the draft record we're looking at, Burke being the guy who thought Biggs was worth moving up for, what are the odds if they stick at 30 and 39 that they make smart picks there?

Jenner, Saad, and Ritchie all seem like players Burke would have been looking for.

 

[Kin]

Sure but given the draft record we're looking at, Burke being the guy who thought Biggs was worth moving up for, what are the odds if they stick at 30 and 39 that they make smart picks there?

Jenner, Saad, and Ritchie all seem like players Burke would have been looking for.

Sure, but if he particularly liked any of them I get the sense he would have stayed put and drafted one.

 

[Champ Kind]

You rang?

Nah, the Biggs thing was much worse. Komisarek was just a mediocre and overpaid defenceman that we had to put up with for basically just 3 seasons. I don't think that contract really did much damage to the long-term fortunes of the team.

Well, that's true.  But we could probably expand this to say that the overrating of Komisarek not only resulted in an overpayment, which today is neither here nor there, but it was fundamental to the accelerated rebuild Burke envisioned.  And while admittedly the Kessel deal looks better today than it did some years ago, there's a pretty good argument to be made that the Leafs would have been better off had they kept the two first and the second.

Of course, we can slice and dice history all we want.

How about this: the Phillipe Paradis for Jiri Tlusty trade was a pretty big stinker, too.

 

[BlueWhiteBlood]

Sure but given the draft record we're looking at, Burke being the guy who thought Biggs was worth moving up for, what are the odds if they stick at 30 and 39 that they make smart picks there?

Jenner, Saad, and Ritchie all seem like players Burke would have been looking for.

I liked Jenner at that draft and seeing him play this year only confirms that he would have been a very good pick for us. I actually at one point thought we were going to pick him. Oh well.

 

[Redleaf]

So if we stay at #8 who will we pick?

Nylander, if he's available. If not, Ehlers or Ritchie.

From Simmons...

The sense I get is Leafs would love to get winger Nikolaj Ehlers from Halifax in draft but don't think he'll be available with the 8th pick

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

"You've got a pretty good chance of getting a good player at eight or four," he said. "For us to move up the price tag would have to reflect that fact."

...

Nonis went with a hulking, defensively-aware centre in Frederik Gauthier a year ago ? his first draft as the Leafs boss ? but is almost certain to add skill with the eighth pick this time around.

"I wouldn't say it's a priority that we're going to go for the most skilled player," Nonis explained, "but I think the players that are going to be available in the top eight by and large are skill players so because of that fact there's a good chance that's what you end up with."

Lacking in high-end depth organizationally down the middle, the Leafs are likely to miss out on the top-end centres (Bennett, Drasaitl, Reinhart) if they stick with their current pick, but could lean in the direction of Sault St. Marie pivot Jared McCann or a promising bunch of big, high-scoring wingers ? Michael Dal Colle, Nick Ritchie, Brendan Perlini, Jake Virtanen ? not to mention speedy, skilled types in Nikolaj Ehlers and Willie Nylander.

"I think all those guys have ability," Nonis said. "It's not one [of those drafts] where you're going to get a hard-nosed plugger or shutdown defenceman; I think even the guys who are more rugged there's some pretty good players there."

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=454597

 

[Bender]

You rang?

Nah, the Biggs thing was much worse. Komisarek was just a mediocre and overpaid defenceman that we had to put up with for basically just 3 seasons. I don't think that contract really did much damage to the long-term fortunes of the team.

Well, that's true.  But we could probably expand this to say that the overrating of Komisarek not only resulted in an overpayment, which today is neither here nor there, but it was fundamental to the accelerated rebuild Burke envisioned.  And while admittedly the Kessel deal looks better today than it did some years ago, there's a pretty good argument to be made that the Leafs would have been better off had they kept the two first and the second.

Of course, we can slice and dice history all we want.

How about this: the Phillipe Paradis for Jiri Tlusty trade was a pretty big stinker, too.

Yeah but that was largely irrelevant. Tlusty wasn't that great, we got Paradis which was packaged for Steeger. He didn't work out too well, so we got a first and third for him. I don't see a big problem with trying to roll the assets.