Draft Pick Watch - WE PICKED NYLANDER!!1!!

[CarltonTheBear]

Final NHL Central Scouting NA draft rankings: http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=712854

EDIT: Should say it also has links to the final European skater rankings, NA goalies and European goalies.

Interesting that they're sticking with Bennett up top.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Josh Ho-Sang is a prospect playing for the Windsor Spitfires. The general consensus is that he'll be drafted in the late-teens, so unless the Leafs reach a bit Nonis and co. won't be saying his name come draft day. But he was suspended today for the first 15 games of next season for this hit in the final game of Windsor's playoffs:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dm_rjxJb4ME[/youtube]

The player that he hit broke his leg on the play, and the OHL said that was essentially the sole reason for the suspension:

?You have a player that pushes another player from behind causing him to lose his balance,? OHL vice-president Ted Baker said in discussing the suspension.

?Unfortunately for both players, it results in a serious injury therefore, the accountability was to Josh.?

Baker said that if Bell had not been injured on the play, there would have been no suspension for Ho-Sang.

?If Zach falls and gets up, we?re not having this conversation,? Baker said.

That might be one of the worst suspensions I've seen.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

You've gotta add about 10 games because it happened to a London Knights player though.

 

[freer]

They suspension is a bit ridicious. The goalie who hit him the back of the head got 8, which in IMO was not enough. There is no way Ho-Sang attempted to brake the players leg.

 

[Bullfrog]

I'm glad I watched the video first before responding. I was going to counter with the general law principle of "they're found as they lay" or however it's worded. Meaning, the result of the crime and severity of the harm has to be taken into consideration.

But, since I watched the video, that's ridiculous. I think a simple minor penalty would have sufficed.

 

[hockeyfan1]

Compared to some of the controversial hits we've seen in OHL that have merited suspensions, this one was tame.  Sang barely pushed, didn't slam him, Bell fell and the ensuing result was what it was.

We've seen this happen in the NHL countless times and a penalty is usually given out to the offending player.

The decision to suspension is puzzling.

 

[Britishbulldog]

April 10th
84pts 2g remain Leafs vs Florida - Let's go Florida

Phoenix vs 82pts 3g remain Nashville - Let's go Nashville for 84 pts
New Jersey vs 82pts 3g remain Ottawa - Let's go Ottawa for 84 pts
Colorado vs Vancouver 81pts 3g remain Vancouver - Let's go Vancouver for 83 pts
Boston vs 80pts 2g remain Winnipeg - Let's go Winnipeg for 82 pts
Washington vs 79pts 3g remain Carolina - Let's go Carolina for 81 pts but down 5-1. 


If everything works for the draft pick above, after tonight the standings will be:
1 Buffalo
2 Florida
3 Edmonton
4 NYI
5 Calgary
6 Carolina 81  34 ROW 2 g remaining
7 Winnipeg 82  29 ROW 1 g remaining
8 Vancouver 83  33 ROW 2 g remaining
9 Toronto 84  29 ROW 1 g remaining
10 Ottawa 84  30 ROW 2 g remaining
11 Nashville 84  33 ROW 2 g remaining

 

[Redleaf]

April 10th
84pts 2g remain Leafs vs Florida - Let's go Florida

Phoenix vs 82pts 3g remain Nashville - Let's go Nashville for 84 pts
New Jersey vs 82pts 3g remain Ottawa - Let's go Ottawa for 84 pts
Colorado vs Vancouver 81pts 3g remain Vancouver - Let's go Vancouver for 83 pts
Boston vs 80pts 2g remain Winnipeg - Let's go Winnipeg for 82 pts
Washington vs 79pts 3g remain Carolina - Let's go Carolina for 81 pts but down 5-1. 


If everything works for the draft pick above, after tonight the standings will be:
1 Buffalo
2 Florida
3 Edmonton
4 NYI
5 Calgary
6 Carolina 81  34 ROW 2 g remaining
7 Winnipeg 82  29 ROW 1 g remaining
8 Vancouver 83  33 ROW 2 g remaining
9 Toronto 84  29 ROW 1 g remaining
10 Ottawa 84  30 ROW 2 g remaining
11 Nashville 84  33 ROW 2 g remaining

Don't wins take precedent over ROWs?

 

[Jalili]

Don't wins take precedent over ROWs?

Nah ROW are what count in the tiebreaking procedure.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?page=nhl/tiebreakers

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Don't wins take precedent over ROWs?

Nope. The regulation+OT wins column was specifically put in to act as the first tie-breaker (if GP are equal).

 

[bustaheims]

Don't wins take precedent over ROWs?

Nope. Outside of the points earned from they, shootout wins aren't a positive factor in breaking a tie in the standings. That's why a number of us were calling the team out for not being able to win outside the shootout for so much of the season.

 

[losveratos]

Don't wins take precedent over ROWs?

Nope. Outside of the points earned from they, shootout wins aren't a positive factor in breaking a tie in the standings. That's why a number of us were calling the team out for not being able to win outside the shootout for so much of the season.

Well don't you guys look silly now that all those shootout wins are a good thing for us  :

 

[CarltonTheBear]

This doesn't include Vancouver's loss last night, so they have the same amount of points and ROW but 2 games remaining, not 3. Also not sure why their Winning % is mixed up with Winnipeg's, so swap that.

So the highest we can go is 7th, if Vancouver and Winnipeg both win out and we lose against Ottawa. Winnipeg would have to win their game in regulation or OT though. That would put them in a tie with us in points and ROW, but they hold the next tie breaker (points earned in games between the two clubs).

The highest we can draft is 11th. If we win on Saturday we can finish ahead of OTT/NAS/NJ. NJ will of course pick 30th this season so even if we finish ahead of them we'll pick a spot lower. Those 3 clubs all have 2 games in hand as opposed to our 1, so we have an advantage there. The game against Ottawa will of course play a big role too.

 

[L K]

This doesn't include Vancouver's loss last night, so they have the same amount of points and ROW but 2 games remaining, not 3.

So the highest we can go is 7th, if Vancouver and Winnipeg both win out and we lose against Ottawa. Winnipeg would have to win their game in regulation or OT though. That would put them in a tie with us in points and ROW, but they hold the next tie breaker (points earned in games between the two clubs).

The highest we can draft is 11th. If we win on Saturday we can finish ahead of OTT/NAS/NJ. NJ will of course pick 30th this season so even if we finish ahead of them we'll pick a spot lower. Those 3 clubs all have 2 games in hand as opposed to our 1, so we have an advantage there. The game against Ottawa will of course play a big role too.

Last night was a pretty good night.  Ottawa beating NJ in OT put NJ in front of the Leafs with actual points.  Ottawa winning gives a chance for them to pass the Leafs in Game 82.  Nashville winning.  Washington winning (guaranteed they finished ahead of the Leafs before the Leafs eventual loss).  Winnipeg beating Boston gives them a shot of passing the Leafs (a win and a Leafs loss in Game 82 has them passing the Leafs due to a tie in ROW and a better head-to-head record).

Vancouver winning their last two games is unlikely but they still have an outside shot at least. 

Certainly looks like the Leafs are going to draft 8-10th.  Not the worst thing to happen.  This really isn't the greatest draft for help up the middle unfortunately.

 

[Britishbulldog]

April 10th
84pts 2g remain Leafs vs Florida - Let's go Florida

Phoenix vs 82pts 3g remain Nashville - Let's go Nashville for 84 pts
New Jersey vs 82pts 3g remain Ottawa - Let's go Ottawa for 84 pts + Bonus point for New Jersey
Colorado vs Vancouver 81pts 3g remain Vancouver - Let's go Vancouver for 83 pts
Boston vs 80pts 2g remain Winnipeg - Let's go Winnipeg for 82 pts (Woohoo!! I didn't expect this one)
Washington vs 79pts 3g remain Carolina - Let's go Carolina for 81 pts  Lost 5-2. 



11 Nashville 84  34 ROW 2 g remaining (plays Chicago and Minnesota)
10 Ottawa 84  29 ROW 2 g remaining (plays Toronto and Pittsburgh)
9 Toronto 84  29 ROW 1 g remaining (plays Ottawa)
8 Vancouver 81  30 ROW 2 g remaining (plays Edmonton and Calgary)
7 Winnipeg 82  28 ROW 1 g remaining (plays Calgary)
6 Carolina 79  33 ROW 2 g remaining (plays Detroit and Philly)
5 Calgary
4 NYI
3 Florida
2 Edmonton
1 Buffalo


(NHL.com)Tie-Breaking procedure
If two or more clubs are tied in points during the regular season, the standing of the clubs is determined in the following order:

- The fewer number of games played (i.e., superior points percentage).
- The greater number of games won, excluding games won in the Shootout. This figure is reflected in the ROW column.
- The greater number of points earned in games between the tied clubs. If two clubs are tied, and have not played an equal number of home games against each other, points earned in the first game played in the city that had the extra game shall not be included. If more than two clubs are tied, the higher percentage of available points earned in games among those clubs, and not including any "odd" games, shall be used to determine the standing.
- The greater differential between goals for and against for the entire regular season. NOTE: In standings a victory in a shootout counts as one goal for, while a shootout loss counts as one goal against.

2013-2014 TORONTO MAPLE LEAFS VS WINNIPEG JETS

@ TORONTO MAPLE LEAFS
DATE               SCORE GAME
05/04/2014       WPG 4 @ TOR 2

@ WINNIPEG JETS
DATE               SCORE
25/01/2014     TOR 4 @ WPG 5 (OT)

....went out to get a Tim's for my wife who has a Psycology exam today (yeah, after 25 years marriage I think she is going to try to figure me out) and hit post to see you did a similar post

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Vancouver winning their last two games is unlikely but they still have an outside shot at least. 

They just need 3 points, assuming the Leafs lose. Vancouver already has the tie-breaker locked up in that event.

 

[Britishbulldog]

Vancouver winning their last two games is unlikely but they still have an outside shot at least. 

They just need 3 points, assuming the Leafs lose. Vancouver already has the tie-breaker locked up in that event.

Exactly.  As horrible as they are as human beings and a team I can't see Vancouver losing to BOTH Calgary and Edmonton.  I think they will get the last 3 points the Leafs need.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Exactly.  As horrible as they are as human beings and a team I can't see Vancouver losing to BOTH Calgary and Edmonton.  I think they will get the last 3 points the Leafs need.

I didn't even check their schedule, yeah that makes me more hopeful.

 

[L K]

Exactly.  As horrible as they are as human beings and a team I can't see Vancouver losing to BOTH Calgary and Edmonton.  I think they will get the last 3 points the Leafs need.

I didn't even check their schedule, yeah that makes me more hopeful.

It doesn't hurt, although Calgary has been a better team in the 2nd half of the year.  Vancouver is really bad. 

 

[mc]

Are they are players in the 6-9 spot that are worth anything in this draft? I ask in seriousness because I haven't followed any of them.