Habs @ Leafs - Oct. 7th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
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Stronger Than All
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Berniers first goal is why they lost. But anyway, I have to force myself to not watch this year. I'm glad they didn't play embarrassing like last year but it's frustrating to watch.
I have a question. If you just want a tank starting with game 1 why even bother watching?
I have a question. If you just want a tank starting with game 1 why even bother watching?
bustaheims
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Nik the Trik said:
Basically. The Leafs played a well coached game tonight, and while they did come up against a very good goalie, they didn't have a ton of great chances either. Tonight was a pretty good example of the team's low level of talent. No amount of coaching can overcome that.
WhatIfGodWasALeaf
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bustaheims said:
I think that while over the course of the season you would be correct, tonight you're reaching.
I'd give them at least six good scoring chances tonight and that's conservatively speaking.
bustaheims
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Patrick said:
Really? At even strength, I'd say there were maybe 3. There may have been more on the PP, but you don't usually count PP chances when you're using them to measure how well a team played.
WhatIfGodWasALeaf
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Per Steve Burtch.
One note on the Leafs generating offense this year. As a group they've shot 10.3% over the past three years. Which is .2% higher than the best team in the NHL, Tampa. Now that would seem to imply that should the Leafs get shots, they'll get goals.
Babcock is going to have them playing a system were I'd be surprised if they are massively outshot every night as we've seen in the recent past.
They cumulatively have 509 goals on 4930 shots over that span, so about 170 goals on 1643 shots a season for 10.3%.
The next thing to look at is that the worst team in the league over that 3 season period has fired 5480 shots, 1826 a year, at the net.
If Babcock has them playing the way he seems to want, you'd think the Leafs would be well above that. Again it kind of points to the Leafs getting some offense, even if they shooting percentage falls back towards the mean of 8.7%.
What is worrying to me and I've spoken to friends about it, is that they are going to be good enough to not get a good draft pick, but bad enough to not make the playoffs.
Which begs the question, if they knew this was coming from Babcock, would they have been better served keeping Kessel?
One note on the Leafs generating offense this year. As a group they've shot 10.3% over the past three years. Which is .2% higher than the best team in the NHL, Tampa. Now that would seem to imply that should the Leafs get shots, they'll get goals.
Babcock is going to have them playing a system were I'd be surprised if they are massively outshot every night as we've seen in the recent past.
They cumulatively have 509 goals on 4930 shots over that span, so about 170 goals on 1643 shots a season for 10.3%.
The next thing to look at is that the worst team in the league over that 3 season period has fired 5480 shots, 1826 a year, at the net.
If Babcock has them playing the way he seems to want, you'd think the Leafs would be well above that. Again it kind of points to the Leafs getting some offense, even if they shooting percentage falls back towards the mean of 8.7%.
What is worrying to me and I've spoken to friends about it, is that they are going to be good enough to not get a good draft pick, but bad enough to not make the playoffs.
Which begs the question, if they knew this was coming from Babcock, would they have been better served keeping Kessel?
GhostofPotvin29
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How....
http://twitter.com/MikeKellyNHL/status/651958773494353920
http://twitter.com/MikeKellyNHL/status/651958773494353920
That's not true, at least it shouldn't be. He gave the puck away when he was in the defensive end under pressure and flipped the puck in the air. Landed on Markov's stick by the blue line.
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CarltonTheBear said:
Just believe.
Boston Leaf
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I don't understand the Bernier hate. Yes the first goal was awful. But he rebounded and made some huge saves to keep it tied for a long time. Played angles real well and was good with is rebounds. He is not the reason we lost. Price is easily the reason we lost. He was ridiculous. Hunwick was better than what I saw in pre-season. Winnik was real good.. Down on Bozak and Lupul.. both looked lost
bustaheims
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caveman said:
Yes. I don't think the Leafs tested Price the way a more talented lineup would have. They had a lot of shot, but very few quality chances. Price is obviously a better goalie than Bernier, but I felt like he had a pretty easy night considering the volume of shots he faced.
hockeyfan1
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"Classy" Blue Jays:
Scott Moore @MooreScottmoore
Classy ad in this morning's Toronto Star by the #bluejays.
Scott Moore @MooreScottmoore
Classy ad in this morning's Toronto Star by the #bluejays.
hockeyfan1
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"Baby steps" for the Leafs alright, and a climb to eventual respectability:
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/maple-leafs-loss-to-canadiens-a-baby-step-in-the-right-direction/
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/maple-leafs-loss-to-canadiens-a-baby-step-in-the-right-direction/
Boston Leaf said:
I mean that's just straight-up false from what I saw.
WhatIfGodWasALeaf
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CarltonTheBear said:
Agreed, the second goal was pretty ugly in that regard.
WhatIfGodWasALeaf
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hockeyfan1 said:
That's not a terrible article, but he's pandering to Montreal fans a bit. The Leafs outplayed Montreal fairly significantly for about 2 and a quarter periods last night.
Boston Leaf
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CarltonTheBear said:
meh I must be dilusional