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Media Thread

I?m not sure if anyone caught prime time sports today, but Brian Burke admitted to forcing Ron Wilson to play Colton Orr. Found that kind of interesting. Said that?s the only time he?s ever forced a coach to play a player.
 
Yeah I did. How bizarre. I get he wanted truculence or whatever but he was an absolute liability out there. Burke was such an epic failure....

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https://www.sportsnet.ca/590/prime-time-sports/oct-11-brian-burke-makes-his-weekly-visit/
Burkie on primetime. Always interesting nuggets.
"They need to have this fight... agents are testin' him, everyone's watchin' him."
 
disco said:
https://www.sportsnet.ca/590/prime-time-sports/oct-11-brian-burke-makes-his-weekly-visit/
Burkie on primetime. Always interesting nuggets.
"They need to have this fight... agents are testin' him, everyone's watchin' him."
Interesting take from BB. Sign and trade Nylander next summer. Good interview.
 
Guilt Trip said:
disco said:
https://www.sportsnet.ca/590/prime-time-sports/oct-11-brian-burke-makes-his-weekly-visit/
Burkie on primetime. Always interesting nuggets.
"They need to have this fight... agents are testin' him, everyone's watchin' him."
Interesting take from BB. Sign and trade Nylander next summer. Good interview.
Given Burke's recent track record I'd do the exact opposite of anything he suggests
 
I actually think the opposite is true. The harder the stance that Dubas takes with Nylander sort of weakens his position with Matthews and Marner. He can't let all of them sit or trade them all. Realistically, Dubas can play chicken with one of them. If he wants to do that with Nylander, fine, but the "trade him if he doesn't want to play ball" stuff is going to be hard enough to make work with Nylander, it would be damn near impossible with Marner and ludicrous to try on Matthews.
 
Nik the Trik said:
I actually think the opposite is true. The harder the stance that Dubas takes with Nylander sort of weakens his position with Matthews and Marner. He can't let all of them sit or trade them all. Realistically, Dubas can play chicken with one of them. If he wants to do that with Nylander, fine, but the "trade him if he doesn't want to play ball" stuff is going to be hard enough to make work with Nylander, it would be damn near impossible with Marner and ludicrous to try on Matthews.

I don't think there's a chance of this situation happening with Matthews. He's going to get McDavid money (or possibly a little more) and no one is going to argue about it. If the Matthews contract blows up, the Leafs will probably be sunk anyway in terms of cup hopes.

Nylander's extension is different because he is a complementary piece. If he goes all 'Bobby Ryan' on the Leafs it could really hinder dreams of a cup. I also do think Nylander will become a trade piece at some point so getting him on as good of a deal as possible will be beneficial to the return he will bring the Leafs in a trade.

Marner's extension will be trickier than Matthews.
 
Dappleganger said:
The Nylander's extension is different because he is a complementary piece. If he goes all 'Bobby Ryan' on the Leafs it could really hinder dreams of a cup. I also do think Nylander will become a trade piece at some point so getting him on as good of a deal as possible will be beneficial to the return he will bring the Leafs in a trade.

I'm not sure what going "Bobby Ryan" means in this context but I can just as easily say that not having Nylander could hinder dreams of a cup. Regardless, I don't want this to turn into yet another Nylander thread.

What I'm saying is that Dubas really only has one nuclear option in his pocket and he can't really use it for Matthews so the idea that he "has" to take this position with Nylander because of how it will affect his other dealings seems like a poorly thought out point here. As said above, Burke may not be the guy to listen to here.
 
https://www.sportsnet.ca/590/prime-time-sports/oct-12-the-friday-roundtable/
Friday roundtable on PTS. Lots of Leafs talk.
 
Nik the Trik said:
Dappleganger said:
The Nylander's extension is different because he is a complementary piece. If he goes all 'Bobby Ryan' on the Leafs it could really hinder dreams of a cup. I also do think Nylander will become a trade piece at some point so getting him on as good of a deal as possible will be beneficial to the return he will bring the Leafs in a trade.

I'm not sure what going "Bobby Ryan" means in this context but I can just as easily say that not having Nylander could hinder dreams of a cup. Regardless, I don't want this to turn into yet another Nylander thread.

What I'm saying is that Dubas really only has one nuclear option in his pocket and he can't really use it for Matthews so the idea that he "has" to take this position with Nylander because of how it will affect his other dealings seems like a poorly thought out point here. As said above, Burke may not be the guy to listen to here.

What I'm trying to say is I agree with you, but because this situation won't exist with Matthews because there won't be a discrepancy about his worth and his indispensability to the team.

Nylander is replaceable (if not equalled) and he could be used to address other needs.

Yeah, sorry. I guess everything is just revolving around Nylander now.
 
Dappleganger said:
Nik the Trik said:
Dappleganger said:
The Nylander's extension is different because he is a complementary piece. If he goes all 'Bobby Ryan' on the Leafs it could really hinder dreams of a cup. I also do think Nylander will become a trade piece at some point so getting him on as good of a deal as possible will be beneficial to the return he will bring the Leafs in a trade.

I'm not sure what going "Bobby Ryan" means in this context but I can just as easily say that not having Nylander could hinder dreams of a cup. Regardless, I don't want this to turn into yet another Nylander thread.

What I'm saying is that Dubas really only has one nuclear option in his pocket and he can't really use it for Matthews so the idea that he "has" to take this position with Nylander because of how it will affect his other dealings seems like a poorly thought out point here. As said above, Burke may not be the guy to listen to here.

What I'm trying to say is I agree with you, but because this situation won't exist with Matthews because there won't be a discrepancy about his worth and his indispensability to the team

We hope. But what if Matthews scores 50+ and wants 15 per? You might dismiss that as farfetched but most of us thought the Leafs and Nylander would be able to settle in the 7 million range.
 
Frycer14 said:
OldTimeHockey said:
So what does everyone think is going to happen with Nylander?

I've got money on him joining the muppets as the new swedish chef. They're rebuilding the cast with youth.

I wonder if they'll pay him as a centre piece of the ensemble cast even though the Swedish chef is more of a complimentary piece to the show.
 
Nik the Trik said:
Dappleganger said:
Nik the Trik said:
Dappleganger said:
The Nylander's extension is different because he is a complementary piece. If he goes all 'Bobby Ryan' on the Leafs it could really hinder dreams of a cup. I also do think Nylander will become a trade piece at some point so getting him on as good of a deal as possible will be beneficial to the return he will bring the Leafs in a trade.

I'm not sure what going "Bobby Ryan" means in this context but I can just as easily say that not having Nylander could hinder dreams of a cup. Regardless, I don't want this to turn into yet another Nylander thread.

What I'm saying is that Dubas really only has one nuclear option in his pocket and he can't really use it for Matthews so the idea that he "has" to take this position with Nylander because of how it will affect his other dealings seems like a poorly thought out point here. As said above, Burke may not be the guy to listen to here.

What I'm trying to say is I agree with you, but because this situation won't exist with Matthews because there won't be a discrepancy about his worth and his indispensability to the team

We hope. But what if Matthews scores 50+ and wants 15 per? You might dismiss that as farfetched but most of us thought the Leafs and Nylander would be able to settle in the 7 million range.

I think something like this can go back to the Tavares/Matthews comparisons too.  Maybe if New York wasn't a mess then JT would have signed a long term extension with them or maybe he always had some part of him that was going to make sure he heard the pitch from Toronto when he had the chance. 

Nothing is going to stop Matthews from doing the same thing and if the Leafs play hardball with contracts it could be a factor in any decision that he makes.
 
Just listening to PTS right now with Bobcat and Shannon and it's like offer sheet, Matthews, Arizona, offer-sheet, offer-sheet, why don't they, offer-sheet...

So you offer-sheet the max $16.25 (20 percent of cap) and all you do is piss off another team, they match and prices across the league go up further. Neither them nor their guests have said this yet. I guess it makes for good radio. There's no way a team doesn't match with a superstar they drafted.
 
This is a funny typo, from tsn story on Marner + Tavares = Mutual Love:

"I thought it would make me a better player," Tavares said. "I knew I'd be playing a couple less minutes a night, but I knew I'd be playing at a higher level, higher pace of play ... when you feel fresh every shift and you're able to play at that higher intensity, with our skillets, I'd like to think we'll have more success."

Maybe it's not a typo.  Marner and Tavares are eggs, success is an omelet, and playing in TO is the skillet.
 
Brian Burke is an embarrassment to SoortsNet/CBC and himself. From his shabby appearance to his severely outdated way of looking at hockey, he has no apparent appeal at all.

Why is he on TV?
 
Michael said:
Brian Burke is an embarrassment to SoortsNet/CBC and himself. From his shabby appearance to his severely outdated way of looking at hockey, he has no apparent appeal at all.

Why is he on TV?

He's looking for Cherry's job.
 

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