NICK RITCHIE TRADED
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Frank E said:
You think Keefe refused to play him so Dubas just cut his losses and waived him? Babcock 2.0?!?
L K said:
Hey, Ritchie cleared.
OldTimeHockey
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I appreciate all the warm sentiments about Dubas, and the constant praise of how "nice" he is, but man I'd like to see him be an arsehole every once and a while.
Guilt Trip
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Don't have to be an arse in the public. I believe it was Justin Bourne that said he's seen plenty of the smash stuff Dubas behind closed doors and losing to the habs last spring wouldn't go over well and the players would hear it. Said he'd be furious with them.OldTimeHockey said:
ZBBM
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Guilt Trip said:
If we lose in the first round this year all this discussion will become academic because he'll be an ex-GM. I think he's a wonderful guy, but the team has to start delivering and there are no more excuses, no matter who the first-round matchup is. They've shown they can beat any team out there; now they have to do it. (At least once!)
Redleaf
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Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
While I agree with your sentiment, winning the first round could mean beating the Stanley Cup champions for this year.
For instance , what if it?s Tampa Bay, who they?re currently on course to meet? If they lose and Tampa goes on to win the cup again , do we bunch that in with all the other first round loses and fire Dubas and Keefe? What if they take Tampa to seven games? Does that change the perspective? What about an overtime loss in game 7?
I don?t think you base everything on the first round outcome alone, even if that?s the line in the sand everyone wants to draw this year.
RedLeaf said:
I agree, and I was thinking about this last night as I was talking about the red flags that start to pop up. As fans we know what we want to see, which is success in the playoffs, but it's not like the team doesn't want that too. Each year Dubas has addressed the exits and built up areas accordingly. The Achilles heel to this team is always going to be on it's reliance on the big 4. Bringing in a new GM isn't necessarily going to bring in a solution to that problem, and it could actually get way worse if someone comes in and messes up those 4 with a poor trade.
As fans, I think we have to realize that we are at the point where this team is going to go as far as Matthews, Marner, Nylander and Tavares take them. That's just the way it is. Last night in Montreal was frustrating because all four of them had off nights. Matthews was losing the puck stick handling, Marner coughed up the puck a bunch, Nylander and Tavares were invisible. Dubas can't fix that. Keefe to a certain degree can maybe address it, but he needs buy in from those 4 to do the things that need to be done to win a game. Not sacrificing defence to score goals for example. It really comes down to those 4 players providing dominating performances on both sides of the puck in the playoffs.
Guilt Trip
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Exactly. They're not facing Montreal this time around. There are no guarantees for anyone to win. I do think it's better to meet Tampa earlier in the playoffs though. Long way to go so let's see how this plays out. Like I always say, enjoy the ride.RedLeaf said:
L K
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Guilt Trip said:
I think a loss does mean we end up breaking up the Nylander/Tavares/Matthews/Marner group but I think a GM/coach decision is going to depend on how we lose. If the Leafs play great but just get beat by a better team I think the coach/GM stay but we lose one of Marner/Nylander in a trade (I just can't see a team taking Tavares off our hands)