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cabber24 said:The Leafs have cap space. Hopefully they can acquire something for taking a salary dump from someone looking to beef up at deadline time.
Britishbulldog said:cabber24 said:The Leafs have cap space. Hopefully they can acquire something for taking a salary dump from someone looking to beef up at deadline time.
I agree. Both Chicago and Washington are carrying a bad contract with Bickell and Laich respectively. They also might be the Cup finalists this year making their 1st picks almost high 2nd picks.
If the Leafs could send a decent player and contract in exchange for each player, Lou might be able to pry the 1st pick away.
Britishbulldog said:That rumour was floated a week or so ago. JVR / Phaneuf (retain salary) / Parenteau for Ladd / Trouba / pick. 'Sources' said that Winnipeg was the instigator of the trade and that Toronto was interested. It's mostly click bait but now that Buff and Myers are locked down long term I could see Trouba and his rumoured contract demands moved.herman said:CarltonTheBear said:You know what, if Winnipeg is losing Ladd that leaves a pretty big hole on their left side. I know someone who could replace his production for a much more reasonable price...
JVR for Trouba?
Like!
Due to WPG being out of the playoff race I can't see WPG being interested in ANY rentals at this point so I see Parenteau off the table. I would wonder if the trade could be:
JVR/Percy (Marincin) for Trouba.
I would then hope that Toronto was close enough to Manitoba and try to flip Gardiner for Hamonic.
Phaneuf/Trouba
Rielly/Hamonic
Hunwick (Harrington,Loov)/Corrado (Polak)
If not, just getting Trouba is still a win.
Patrick said:Anyone think there is a chance Rielly signs the same type of deal as Klingberg?
Perhaps a few years shorter?
Patrick said:Yeah, Klingberg is older and has taken off a little bit offensively, granted on a better team and with more PP time.
Bender said:http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/maple-leafs-stats-analysis/2016/2/9/10933164/should-we-be-concerned-about-morgan-riellys-defensive-play
Kind of interesting article about Rielly's defensive abilities.
CarltonTheBear said:Bender said:http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/maple-leafs-stats-analysis/2016/2/9/10933164/should-we-be-concerned-about-morgan-riellys-defensive-play
Kind of interesting article about Rielly's defensive abilities.
Just in regards to that chart comparing him to other young defencemen, I looked up some of the more prominent ones and it doesn't really feel like those guys were playing against top competition at that age like Rielly is. I kind of appreciate what Babcock has tried to do with Rielly by basically just throwing him into the deep end, but it would have really made a lot more sense to do it with a more reliable partner. I feel like Babcock likely thinks that Hunwick is a good guy for that job, but he really isn't.
Potvin29 said:Yeah and while there's a limit to using zone starts, they didn't even really try to look at those in their comparison either.
Potvin29 said:Yeah and while there's a limit to using zone starts, they didn't even really try to look at those in their comparison either.
Patrick said:But perhaps something like 4.75 for the next three to four seasons would be reasonable.
CarltonTheBear said:Patrick said:But perhaps something like 4.75 for the next three to four seasons would be reasonable.
Something to keep in mind is his future UFA status. He's about to accrue his 3rd NHL season, so a 4-year deal would bring him right up into unrestricted free agency. That's likely something the team will want to avoid. A 3-year deal might not be ideal because it could very well mean that he'll be a RFA again at the exact same time as Nylander, Marner, and potentially our 2016 first rounder. 1 or 2-year deals are bridge contracts and I think the Leafs will probably want to avoid those with Rielly. A 5-year deal only buys 1 UFA season and if you're buying UFA seasons then you may as well buy 2 of them.
That's why 6 years is probably the most likely outcome for me. All the established NHL defencemen from the draft prior to Rielly's also signed 6-year deals after their ELCs expired too. Brodin and Larsson both signed identical deals at $4.166mil, while Hamilton got 6 years at $5.75mil. I'd put Rielly's first 3 years in the NHL closer to Hamilton's, so I'd be pretty happy with $5.5-5.75mil.
herman said:What about 7 years @ 4.75-5M? It nets out to a bit more than 6 y @ 5.5-5.75, but it's more stability for Rielly and brings the cap hit down a bit to make it easier to surround him with better players.