herman said:
They're gonna write books about our 2016 draft one day, I'm sure of it.
Ranking Prospects - 2017-18
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They're gonna write books about our 2016 draft one day, I'm sure of it.
herman
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Just to take it further to top non-NHL prospect by position
Johnsson - Brooks - Kapanen
Dermott - Liljegren
Woll
LW is a bit of a toss-up depending on how you'd measure the ranking: likelihood to make the NHL? ceiling at the NHL? Likelihood to make the Leafs under Babcock?
Along with Johnsson, I'd put Grundstrom and Timashov there as options, but both of them have a smaller body of work with the Marlies. Rychel, while currently probably better, is, I believe, pretty much at his ceiling (4th line with a pop of skill occasionally).
Johnsson - Brooks - Kapanen
Dermott - Liljegren
Woll
LW is a bit of a toss-up depending on how you'd measure the ranking: likelihood to make the NHL? ceiling at the NHL? Likelihood to make the Leafs under Babcock?
Along with Johnsson, I'd put Grundstrom and Timashov there as options, but both of them have a smaller body of work with the Marlies. Rychel, while currently probably better, is, I believe, pretty much at his ceiling (4th line with a pop of skill occasionally).
Kin
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Also, re: the general weakness of the prospect pool that's obviously to be expected more or less with the team's big improvement last year being mainly driven by guys graduating from the pool itself but we should keep in mind that what the trading of 2nd and 1sts has done, as well as the team's hipster drafting of guys nobody's heard of, has meant is that they not only don't have any A guys left they really don't have any B guys either(Liljegren being the only one really).
So that's why we need to be careful about the idea of tossing in the 2018 1st rounder into trade ideas. Building up a group of those B-level prospects is going to be important for the team to compete in a post-triplet extension world. Effectively, the team made all of the picks and prospects for immediate help they can already between moves like Andersen and Boyle.
So that's why we need to be careful about the idea of tossing in the 2018 1st rounder into trade ideas. Building up a group of those B-level prospects is going to be important for the team to compete in a post-triplet extension world. Effectively, the team made all of the picks and prospects for immediate help they can already between moves like Andersen and Boyle.
bustaheims
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Bender said:
To be fair, he was a 6th round pick - which is a crapshoot as it is.
herman
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bustaheims said:
It was a reasonable enough gamble:
| Season | Age | GP | G | A | PTS |
| 2012-13 | 16 | 58 | 9 | 13 | 22 |
| 2013-14 | 17 | 48 | 7 | 8 | 15 |
| 2014-15 | 18 | 70 | 18 | 37 | 55 |
| 2015-16 | 19 | 72 | 36 | 48 | 84 |
| 2016-17 | 20 | 70 | 31 | 41 | 72 |
Look at the ramp up from D-1 to D+1 in production and it looks a lot like there was some upswing there, especially on a player with great wheels and transitioning from defense to forward.
He tapered off, and thus didn't warrant a fringe contract. Same with Korostelev and Desrocher. If Walker was our 3rd rounder, I might have more questions for Hunter. That being said, lower round picks are projects by definition, and projects need more time, so where's the wisdom in going with an overager without runway at that depth of the draft?
As it stands, I would have rather shed fringe NHL contracts as soon as I could instead of letting the clock run out on these projects, as they didn't really get a chance to even make it into our development system.
herman
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Nik the Trik said:
I wasn't disagreeing. Just thought Rychel was older based on his plateaued development (my guess was also 24), which was surprising because I still see growth potential in Johnsson (higher ceiling).
Out of curiosity, here's who was drafted +/- 5 of Rychel:
Wennberg
Pulock
Zadorov
Lazar
Mueller
Rychel
Mantha
Gauthier
Poirier
Burakovsky
Shinkaruk
Down a couple more slots are Shea Theodore and Marko Dano.
Jury's still out on Mantha (looks decent though), and other than the bolded two, this chunk of the draft looks pretty much cooked.
herman
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Fun thought about the format of the dev camp: free agents vs prospects -- it's almost a Dubas vs Hunter scrimmage.
The idea for the format was largely Dubas + Pellerin, and the longshots that got a chance with the camp were Dubas-ian picks of underrated talent. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the available ones get a look with the Solar Bears and/or Marlies, a la Trevor Moore last season.
The idea for the format was largely Dubas + Pellerin, and the longshots that got a chance with the camp were Dubas-ian picks of underrated talent. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the available ones get a look with the Solar Bears and/or Marlies, a la Trevor Moore last season.
herman
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Really good video and info about Nikolai Chebykin on r/leafs.
He's got size, speed, and skill, and it looks like he wrecked his junior league, and had a strong showing in the minor league after getting the usual KHL garbage treatment.
He's got size, speed, and skill, and it looks like he wrecked his junior league, and had a strong showing in the minor league after getting the usual KHL garbage treatment.
Highlander
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Hopefully a Diamond in the rough!herman said:
