Steve Stamkos?
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sickbeast said:Do the Leafs have room under the salary cap to sign Stamkos now? I heard somewhere that they only have $5M under the cap now. They would have to shed some salary in order to get him. Too bad.
I think that if you see the Leafs clear out salary before July 1st, that will be an indication of what their plan is regarding free agency.
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sickbeast said:Do the Leafs have room under the salary cap to sign Stamkos now? I heard somewhere that they only have $5M under the cap now. They would have to shed some salary in order to get him. Too bad.
The Leafs right now are 11 million under the cap and that's with Horton on the books
Nik the Trik said:sickbeast said:Do the Leafs have room under the salary cap to sign Stamkos now? I heard somewhere that they only have $5M under the cap now. They would have to shed some salary in order to get him. Too bad.
The Leafs right now are 11 million under the cap and that's with Horton on the books
GeneralFanager has them with 5.4 million in cap space:
http://www.generalfanager.com/teams/toronto-maple-leafs
Is this site not reliable?
bustaheims
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Significantly Insignificant said:
It's not perfect, as some of the guys they have on the roster will be with the Marlies, and some guys they have as non-roster will probably be Leafs, but, it's pretty close.
Kin
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Significantly Insignificant said:
I was using NHLnumbers. It looks like the discrepancy might be about Lupul's deal and which Marlies are being counted on the Leafs cap.
Either way between Horton's deal and the off-season 10% leeway actually signing Stamkos shouldn't be a problem if they want it to happen. Making it fit might take a trade or two but of all the reasons not to sign Stamkos that doesn't seem too high on the list.
bustaheims
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Significantly Insignificant said:
It all depends on whether or not the Leafs are happy potentially carrying a significant overage penalty for 17/18. Can't use LTIR space for performance bonuses. Once you go into your LTIR space, you're considered to be maxed out when the season ends, and performance bonuses aren't awarded until after the season. With the number of players on ELCs expected to play prominent roles on the team this season, that could lead to a big chunk of dead space.
bustaheims said:
Having a bonus overage for 17/18 probably wouldn't be the end of the world though. We're likely going to have a lot more cap space then than we do now. Laich, Michalek, Greening, Bernier and Robidas will all be off the books, and our younger players on ELC should be taking even more prominent roles at that point.
As for the bonuses themselves, we're a little lucky that aside from Matthews none of them are massive. Nylander, Marner, and Zaitsev can only get a maximum of $850k (unless they win league awards as well).
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Significantly Insignificant said:
Robidas and Horton are somewhat unique in missing all last season due to injury. They can be put on SOIR which allows there full salaries to be taken off the cap.
http://www.shanaplandebate.com/in-depth-analysis-toronto-maple-leafs-cap-situation/
"SOIR is similar to Long Term Injured Reserve (LTIR) but with a few additional rules: The first rule being that players who failed to play a single NHL game in the year previous, are eligible to have their entire cap hit relieved from the team they are signed to. Meaning, this effectively wipes the entirety of both Robidas? and Horton?s combined $8.3M salaries from Toronto?s cap hit for next season."
Yeah I've seen that term used once before (maybe even on that site) and I'm 99% sure that it's either been completely made up or they're seriously misinterpreting something that they think they've read.
bustaheims
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Nik the Trik said:
Nothing in 50.10 either, and that's the section that specifically deals with how players on LTIR impact the cap.
bustaheims
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CarltonTheBear said:
It comes from capfriendly, but I have no idea where they think they found it. It's nowhere in the CBA.
EDIT: And capfriendly has a pretty detailed description of how they believe it works. Still no idea where they're getting it from. The phrase "season opening injury reserve" does not appear in the CBA.
bustaheims said:
Ah, yes, I remember finding my way there when I first heard the team. The thing is their entire explanation beings with "If a player is injured during training-camp". So even if all their information is accurate (and despite not being able to find it in the CBA, they usually are so I'll give them the benefit of the doubt here), it wouldn't apply to Horton or Robidas unless they made a valiant comeback effort and re-injured themselves.
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CarltonTheBear said:
Yeah. I fired off an email to them to see if they'll tell me where they found their info, so I can see what it actually says for myself.
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