Tavares

[Redleaf]

Come on guys. I?m a little surprised with all the reasons given why JT won?t chose Toronto and so little about why he WILL select the Leafs !

I guess it eases the blow when you have your mind wrapped around him going elsewhere or staying with the Islanders, but the Leafs have a very good shot at this !!

I would not be surprised if he?s a Leaf in a day or two.

*Fingers crossed*

 

[Frank E]

I can understand that. I once had a dinner with a well-known Canadian celebrity and his family and it was really annoying. The worst was the constant flow of people saying:

- "you know, I don't normally come up to people, but....."
- "I'm so sorry for interrupting your dinner, but...."
- "Could I just get a quick picture....it'll only take a second...."

Once or twice would be ok; but after the 20th time.....well I came to understand the prison that fame can be. The fans being polite didn't help much, because it was the total amount of interruption that was annoying, not any single request.

I think you were more annoyed with it than I was, Frog.  I'm used to it, and it doesn't bother me.  I actually enjoy all the adulation.  I much enjoyed our dinner, and I think I made those 20 or so peoples' evenings. 

What I thought was rude is that you didn't even offer to pick up the tab.

 

[Zee]

I can understand that. I once had a dinner with a well-known Canadian celebrity and his family and it was really annoying. The worst was the constant flow of people saying:

- "you know, I don't normally come up to people, but....."
- "I'm so sorry for interrupting your dinner, but...."
- "Could I just get a quick picture....it'll only take a second...."

Once or twice would be ok; but after the 20th time.....well I came to understand the prison that fame can be. The fans being polite didn't help much, because it was the total amount of interruption that was annoying, not any single request.

I hear ya.  The wife and I once saw Silken Laumann having dinner a few tables away from us and although we looked over and noticed we refrained from the "I don't normally do this..." so I was proud of myself.

Fast forward a few years later and we're eating at Me-Va-Me restaurant and the kids spot some YouTube celebrities they watch and went up to them to ask for a selfie.  I laughed.  ;D

 

[Frank E]

I think one big difference between being an entertainment celebrity, and a NHL hockey player in Toronto, is that being in the entertainment business requires some press to keep you in the limelight to maintain your fame, and therefore, your paycheques.

You can make the same money being anonymous NHLer in Dallas as you could being bothered every time you drop off at your dry-cleaners in Toronto.

 

[Redleaf]

I think one big difference between being an entertainment celebrity, and a NHL hockey player in Toronto, is that being in the entertainment business requires some press to keep you in the limelight to maintain your fame, and therefore, your paycheques.

You can make the same money being anonymous NHLer in Dallas as you could being bothered every time you drop off at your dry-cleaners in Toronto.

Yeah.  It?s definitely a personality trait situation. Some people feed off the attention and some shy away from it .

 

[Guru Tugginmypuddah]

I leave famous people alone.  They really don't give a shit about you, nor should they. 

 

[Average Joes]

I thought millennials love media attention? 

 

[Kin]

I think one big difference between being an entertainment celebrity, and a NHL hockey player in Toronto, is that being in the entertainment business requires some press to keep you in the limelight to maintain your fame, and therefore, your paycheques.

Well, that and you figure that the entertainment business is one where one of the draws might be for people who like attention. Meanwhile dopes like Lamoriello are constantly preaching a hockey culture that holds up seeking individual attention as a grave moral failing on par with murdering children or growing a beard.

 

[Frank E]

Come on guys. I?m a little surprised with all the reasons given why JT won?t chose Toronto and so little about why he WILL select the Leafs !

I guess it eases the blow when you have your mind wrapped around him going elsewhere or staying with the Islanders, but the Leafs have a very good shot at this !!

I would not be surprised if he?s a Leaf in a day or two.

*Fingers crossed*

Pluses:

1.  It's home, it's close to family for him and his wife.
2.  He can work for a very prestigious organization.
3.  He has a nice surrounding cast with a positive future outlook.
4.  Media is great...when you're winning.
5.  Knows the subway routes.

Minuses:

1.  Nowhere to hide/privacy.
2.  Media scrutiny can be very tough, when you lose.
3.  It's cold here, a lot.
4.  Taxes suck.
5.  It's maybe too close to family, all the time.
6.  The Gardiner potholes can rip the front splitter right off your McLaren 720S.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

3.  It's cold here, a lot.

Uh, today might not be the best day to make that argument.

But actually, are winters here really that bad? Are they any different than other cities in the east like Detroit, Washington, New York, Boston?

 

[Kin]

4.  Media is great...when you're winning.

Is it? I feel like it's more a case of "Media is intrusive when you're winning, relentlessly critical when you're not".

Maybe a cup win would change things but Sundin especially was still pretty heavily criticized even when the team was pretty good.

 

[Frank E]

3.  It's cold here, a lot.

Uh, today might not be the best day to make that argument.

But actually, are winters here really that bad? Are they any different than other cities in the east like Detroit, Washington, New York, Boston?

Probably not worse than those, but certainly lousier than SJ, Tampa, or Dallas.

 

[bustaheims]

Probably not worse than those, but certainly lousier than SJ, Tampa, or Dallas.

Sure, but, at the same time, we are talking about guys who make their living playing on ice. I wonder how many of them actually find it jarring to leave work and have it be t-shirt weather outside in January. A lot obviously don't or they get used to it, but some probably do.

 

[Coco-puffs]

Probably not worse than those, but certainly lousier than SJ, Tampa, or Dallas.

Sure, but, at the same time, we are talking about guys who make their living playing on ice. I wonder how many of them actually find it jarring to leave work and have it be t-shirt weather outside in January. A lot obviously don't or they get used to it, but some probably do.

I played hockey last night.  Nothing better than going to and leaving the rink in shorts and flip-flops.  Now, the ice sucked because of the warm weather but oh well- I still scored 3

 

[Frank E]

Probably not worse than those, but certainly lousier than SJ, Tampa, or Dallas.

Sure, but, at the same time, we are talking about guys who make their living playing on ice. I wonder how many of them actually find it jarring to leave work and have it be t-shirt weather outside in January. A lot obviously don't or they get used to it, but some probably do.

Yah you're crazy, it would be great.

 

[bustaheims]

Probably not worse than those, but certainly lousier than SJ, Tampa, or Dallas.

Sure, but, at the same time, we are talking about guys who make their living playing on ice. I wonder how many of them actually find it jarring to leave work and have it be t-shirt weather outside in January. A lot obviously don't or they get used to it, but some probably do.

Yah you're crazy, it would be great.

Oh, I'm confident it's not the majority of players who feel that way. I'm just sure there are some - and, maybe Tavares is one of them.

 

[Zee]

Probably not worse than those, but certainly lousier than SJ, Tampa, or Dallas.

Sure, but, at the same time, we are talking about guys who make their living playing on ice. I wonder how many of them actually find it jarring to leave work and have it be t-shirt weather outside in January. A lot obviously don't or they get used to it, but some probably do.

Yah you're crazy, it would be great.

Oh, I'm confident it's not the majority of players who feel that way. I'm just sure there are some - and, maybe Tavares is one of them.

It's great that he's making his decision during the hottest Toronto stretch in years.  He'll soak up some sun today and think "damn, Toronto weather is pretty damn good, where's Dubas's number again?"

 

[Redleaf]

Can?t help but wonder , if JT was sceptical about coming to Toronto for all these potential drawbacks  and issues that may arise if he were to put on the Maple Leaf white and blue, why would he even bother including Toronto on his shortlist?

 

[Kin]

Can?t help but wonder , if JT was sceptical about coming to Toronto for all these potential drawbacks  and issues that may arise if he were to put on the Maple Leaf white and blue, why would he even bother including Toronto on his shortlist?

Why put the richest team in the league with a ton of cap space on your shortlist?

 

[Bender]

Can?t help but wonder , if JT was sceptical about coming to Toronto for all these potential drawbacks  and issues that may arise if he were to put on the Maple Leaf white and blue, why would he even bother including Toronto on his shortlist?

Yeah, I mean he's not ignorant to the downsides of being a Leaf. The things we're mulling over now are things he's probably thought about for a very long time.

I also kind of thing that there could be the idea that if he came over and won a Cup with the Leafs that he'd basically be immortalized forever. Heck, he'd probably be immortalized anyway even if he didn't win (Gilmour, Clark etc).