bustaheims
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Sarge said:Sure... but nothing ventured...
Nothing lost. Sometimes, the best course of action is inaction.
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Sarge said:Sure... but nothing ventured...
Corn Flake said:Erndog said:I just think that all acquiring a veteran is going to do is delay the inevitable. The inevitable being finding a permanent solution in goal.
Say we do get a decent vet, he then gives us 1, maybe 2 decent years (what does Reimer do in the meantime here? play 30-40 games?) then we have to test drive Reimer as a starter ALL over again. Pass.
I want a potentially elite goalie for the next 10 years. I want this goalie situation solved. Getting a veteran just buys more time (and really? Do we want a Nabokov? A Khabibulan? Seriously?)... I'd much prefer giving the keys to Schneider and letting the chips fall where they may. Hey, he may not be the answer but at the very least it's a well calculated risk that has potential for a MASSIVE payoff. All getting a veteran does is become a stop-gap for a year or two.
Well I do think what they need is a stop gap and a support guy. the stop gap buys a bit more time to evaluate the prospects they have, and see if Reimer bounces back. There never is a "permanent" solution in goal. Of the best ones the Leafs have had in the last 25 years, Potvin was here for only 7 seasons, and arguably only 4 of those were actually really good ones.
No I don't want a Navokov or a Khabbi ... not THAT old ... as suggested, Biron is a good option and Vokoun is another one. You could trade for a Halak, who wouldn't cost what Schneider would because of the contract.
I still think Reimer deserves a good chance next year, and he will get it. Give the kid the off season to fully recover from the head spins and give him a veteran guy to support him. The Leafs have at least four options in the system starting with Reimer so its not as if they are devoid of goalie prospects. And we all know they can come out of nowhere at any time.
I think Schneider and the cost to get him is as much of a risk as putting faith in Reimer taking on 50% of the starts next year along with a veteran... just a different kind of risk.
Sarge said:Karlsson, Irving, Ramo... Would you say any of those guys are ready to be a starter? I honestly don't know but if the feeling is "no" (and I suspect it is) then don't you think they just keep Kipper?
louisstamos said:On top of which, Vancouver has $55 mil committed to 17 players for next year. If there are no changes to the cap, Vancouver has $9 million to sign 6 players (including RFA Mason Raymond). If you offer Schneider the max for a 2nd round pick compensation ($3,134,099), it puts them in quite a precarious situation. I still say them match if the compensation in only a 2nd round pick...put it does put them in a salary shedding situation...
Potvin29 said:The Sedins aren't soft.
Sarge said:Potvin29 said:The Sedins aren't soft.
Maybe not Kessel soft. Daniel certainly pasted Keith the other night but they do have a reputation of being easy to push around. I think Boston proved that last year.
louisstamos said:On top of which, Vancouver has $55 mil committed to 17 players for next year. If there are no changes to the cap, Vancouver has $9 million to sign 6 players (including RFA Mason Raymond). If you offer Schneider the max for a 2nd round pick compensation ($3,134,099), it puts them in quite a precarious situation. I still say them match if the compensation in only a 2nd round pick...put it does put them in a salary shedding situation...
Significantly Insignificant said:If we are going this route, I say keep the young players the leafs have and create a deal centred around Kessel for Schneider. Move pieces to offset values and risk, as well as salary.
Tigger said:Sarge said:Potvin29 said:The Sedins aren't soft.
Maybe not Kessel soft. Daniel certainly pasted Keith the other night but they do have a reputation of being easy to push around. I think Boston proved that last year.
Nothing says soft like losing in game 7...
Sarge said:Tigger said:Sarge said:Potvin29 said:The Sedins aren't soft.
Maybe not Kessel soft. Daniel certainly pasted Keith the other night but they do have a reputation of being easy to push around. I think Boston proved that last year.
Nothing says soft like losing in game 7...
What does game 7 have to do with it? Look. - They have a reputation and that's just plain fact. I don't think it's a coincidence Burrows (not the most talented of blokes) has played the majority of his career in Vancouver on that line.