2016 Lead up to the Trade Deadline thread

[bustaheims]

well I certainly hope they can wrangle one more 1st rounder this year.  I just don't think that trade is going to include reimer or pap.  I do agree with you that pap should fetch a 2nd but I find it hard to judge reimers value because goalies don't bring large returns.

Goalie values fluctuate more than any other position, and, from the looks of things, they're on the upswing. This summer, we saw a number of goalies who had yet to prove they could be starters in the NHL (and who were mostly around the same age as Reimer) get moved for 1st round picks or multiple picks in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. A couple years ago, I would have agreed with you on the value of goalies, but, I'm not sure it's true anymore.

 

[Kin]

well I certainly hope they can wrangle one more 1st rounder this year.  I just don't think that trade is going to include reimer or pap.  I do agree with you that pap should fetch a 2nd but I find it hard to judge reimers value because goalies don't bring large returns.

Goalie values fluctuate more than any other position, and, from the looks of things, they're on the upswing. This summer, we saw a number of goalies who had yet to prove they could be starters in the NHL (and who were mostly around the same age as Reimer) get moved for 1st round picks or multiple picks in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. A couple years ago, I would have agreed with you on the value of goalies, but, I'm not sure it's true anymore.

Also, it's tough to gauge the value of goalies precisely because it's pretty rare for a team to be in the Leafs' position where they have essentially no chance of making the playoffs but still have a goalie who you can credibly sell as a potential #1 based on his current play. Ryan Miller might be the last guy who got dealt in that situation.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

I knew that Anaheim had a great collection of young defencemen, but I don't think you really appreciate it until you line them all up:

Fowler
Lindholm
Vatanen
Theodore
Despres

That's 5 NHL defencemen, all 24 years old or younger. Just loaded. Now, which one are we trading for JVR?

 

[bustaheims]

I knew that Anaheim had a great collection of young defencemen, but I don't think you really appreciate it until you line them all up:

Fowler
Lindholm
Vatanen
Theodore
Despres

That's 5 NHL defencemen, all 24 years old or younger. Just loaded. Now, which one are we trading for JVR?

Lindholm and Vatanen are both pending RFAs, Despres has a big pay increase kicking in next season, and the Ducks look like they could use some help up front . . . I think you're on to something, CtB.

 

[rdowdall]

well I certainly hope they can wrangle one more 1st rounder this year.  I just don't think that trade is going to include reimer or pap.  I do agree with you that pap should fetch a 2nd but I find it hard to judge reimers value because goalies don't bring large returns.

Goalie values fluctuate more than any other position, and, from the looks of things, they're on the upswing. This summer, we saw a number of goalies who had yet to prove they could be starters in the NHL (and who were mostly around the same age as Reimer) get moved for 1st round picks or multiple picks in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. A couple years ago, I would have agreed with you on the value of goalies, but, I'm not sure it's true anymore.

Also, it's tough to gauge the value of goalies precisely because it's pretty rare for a team to be in the Leafs' position where they have essentially no chance of making the playoffs but still have a goalie who you can credibly sell as a potential #1 based on his current play. Ryan Miller might be the last guy who got dealt in that situation.

I wonder if the parity in the league will have a negative impact on the prices of players.  I think you'll see more prospects dangled than picks.  Teams might not want to move their picks because there is a higher chance that they will miss the playoffs due to the lack of a gap in points between them and other teams.  It may be enough of a disincentive to drive prices down on rentals who don't have a high impact on the game, but are more of a depth player.  For guys like Gardiner, JVR, and Kadri, I could see the price staying high because they are young and can can have a positive impact on a team by filling a glaring hole.  Guys like Boyes, Matthias and Parenteau are probably perceived as being nice to have, but not essential.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

The Canes just placed Ward on the IR with a concussion. Make your move Carolina!

 

[bustaheims]

The Canes just placed Ward on the IR with a concussion. Make your move Carolina!

It's almost like it's meant to be. Come now, Francis, it's your destiny. Search your feelings, you know it to be true.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

Damn, it's too perfect.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

The Canes just placed Ward on the IR with a concussion. Make your move Carolina!

It's almost like it's meant to be. Come now, Francis, it's your destiny. Search your feelings, you know it to be true.

It was 11 years, 10 months, and 11 days ago that Ron Francis was traded to Toronto at the trade deadline. Ron Francis wore the number 10. James Reimer has 11 career shutouts. That can't all be a coincidence!

 

[Highlander]

I want them to keep Reimer, won't they take Nuckles?

 

[bustaheims]

The Canes just placed Ward on the IR with a concussion. Make your move Carolina!

It's almost like it's meant to be. Come now, Francis, it's your destiny. Search your feelings, you know it to be true.

It was 11 years, 10 months, and 11 days ago that Ron Francis was traded to Toronto at the trade deadline. Ron Francis wore the number 10. James Reimer has 11 career shutouts. That can't all be a coincidence!

The numbers! They must mean something!

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

The Canes just placed Ward on the IR with a concussion. Make your move Carolina!

It's almost like it's meant to be. Come now, Francis, it's your destiny. Search your feelings, you know it to be true.

It was 11 years, 10 months, and 11 days ago that Ron Francis was traded to Toronto at the trade deadline. Ron Francis wore the number 10. James Reimer has 11 career shutouts. That can't all be a coincidence!

The numbers! They must mean something!

4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42




People still get that reference, right!?

 

[louisstamos]

The Canes just placed Ward on the IR with a concussion. Make your move Carolina!

It's almost like it's meant to be. Come now, Francis, it's your destiny. Search your feelings, you know it to be true.

It was 11 years, 10 months, and 11 days ago that Ron Francis was traded to Toronto at the trade deadline. Ron Francis wore the number 10. James Reimer has 11 career shutouts. That can't all be a coincidence!

The numbers! They must mean something!

4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42




People still get that reference, right!?

If a plane crashes today, I'm blaming you.

 

[rdowdall]

The Canes just placed Ward on the IR with a concussion. Make your move Carolina!

It's almost like it's meant to be. Come now, Francis, it's your destiny. Search your feelings, you know it to be true.

It was 11 years, 10 months, and 11 days ago that Ron Francis was traded to Toronto at the trade deadline. Ron Francis wore the number 10. James Reimer has 11 career shutouts. That can't all be a coincidence!

The numbers! They must mean something!

4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42




People still get that reference, right!?

Who is the smoke monster?

 

[Boston Leaf]

The Canes just placed Ward on the IR with a concussion. Make your move Carolina!

It's almost like it's meant to be. Come now, Francis, it's your destiny. Search your feelings, you know it to be true.

It was 11 years, 10 months, and 11 days ago that Ron Francis was traded to Toronto at the trade deadline. Ron Francis wore the number 10. James Reimer has 11 career shutouts. That can't all be a coincidence!

hahahaha that really cracked me up  ;D

 

[bustaheims]

The Canes just placed Ward on the IR with a concussion. Make your move Carolina!

It's almost like it's meant to be. Come now, Francis, it's your destiny. Search your feelings, you know it to be true.

It was 11 years, 10 months, and 11 days ago that Ron Francis was traded to Toronto at the trade deadline. Ron Francis wore the number 10. James Reimer has 11 career shutouts. That can't all be a coincidence!

The numbers! They must mean something!

4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42




People still get that reference, right!?

We have to go back!

 

[LuncheonMeat]

The Canes just placed Ward on the IR with a concussion. Make your move Carolina!

It's almost like it's meant to be. Come now, Francis, it's your destiny. Search your feelings, you know it to be true.

It was 11 years, 10 months, and 11 days ago that Ron Francis was traded to Toronto at the trade deadline. Ron Francis wore the number 10. James Reimer has 11 career shutouts. That can't all be a coincidence!

The numbers! They must mean something!

It's machine language for you've Lost your mind.

 

[WhatIfGodWasALeaf]

Not
Pennys
Boat

 

[rdowdall]

The Canes just placed Ward on the IR with a concussion. Make your move Carolina!

It's almost like it's meant to be. Come now, Francis, it's your destiny. Search your feelings, you know it to be true.

It was 11 years, 10 months, and 11 days ago that Ron Francis was traded to Toronto at the trade deadline. Ron Francis wore the number 10. James Reimer has 11 career shutouts. That can't all be a coincidence!

The numbers! They must mean something!

It's machine language for you've Lost your mind.

1101 1110 1010 1101 1011 1110 1110 1111

 

[L K]

I'm having a crappy day at work.  I blame your stupid numbers.