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2019 Toronto Maple Leafs Offseason Discussion

Who will captain the Toronto Maple Leafs in 2019?

  • William Nylander

    Votes: 20 60.6%
  • John Tavares

    Votes: 3 9.1%
  • Morgan Rielly

    Votes: 6 18.2%
  • Mitch Marner

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • No one

    Votes: 4 12.1%

  • Total voters
    33
herman said:
I had a weird dream where Marleau got traded for Kessel, and the line of Nylander - Kadri - Kessel put up 96 goals.
That's quite the specific dream.
 
Guilt Trip said:
I don't know much/anything about him. Why should the Leafs be all over that and who would be going to get him?

Think a smaller Anton Stralman maybe. Would pretty much be a perfect RHD for Rielly on the top pairing. Really don't know why the Wild would trade him but they dealt Niederreiter for Rask so something like Spurgeon for Zaitsev doesn't even seem THAT crazy in comparison.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Guilt Trip said:
I don't know much/anything about him. Why should the Leafs be all over that and who would be going to get him?

Think a smaller Anton Stralman maybe. Would pretty much be a perfect RHD for Rielly on the top pairing. Really don't know why the Wild would trade him but they dealt Niederreiter for Rask so something like Spurgeon for Zaitsev doesn't even seem THAT crazy in comparison.

They?re retooling, right? Fenton seems to be just throwing anything over a certain age and usefulness overboard.
 
In a more serious Spurgeon proposal, I can see them being pretty interested in Kapanen. This is a problem I brought up with Minnesota before: they have almost zero right handed forwards. In 17/18 their only righties were centre Charlie Coyle, and Chris Stewart who was mostly a 4th liner before being claimed off waivers. In 18/19 they had Coyle (traded), Fehr (centre), Kunin (centre), J.T. Brown (4th line winger) and then they acquired Pontus Aberg mid-season but he's not really an impact player. So for two straight seasons they've had zero top-9 wingers who were right handed.

Zaitsev would have to get dealt in some way as well for cap purposes, and honestly who knows maybe Minnesota does see some value in him since losing Spurgeon would leave them with almost nothing on the right side (edit: brain fart... they have Dumba there but he was listed in on the IR on capfriendly so I didn't spot him. Still, not much after that).
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Guilt Trip said:
I don't know much/anything about him. Why should the Leafs be all over that and who would be going to get him?

Think a smaller Anton Stralman maybe. Would pretty much be a perfect RHD for Rielly on the top pairing. Really don't know why the Wild would trade him but they dealt Niederreiter for Rask so something like Spurgeon for Zaitsev doesn't even seem THAT crazy in comparison.
Well I'd be good with that. Do it Dubas!
 
CarltonTheBear said:
In a more serious Spurgeon proposal, I can see them being pretty interested in Kapanen. This is a problem I brought up with Minnesota before: they have almost zero right handed forwards. In 17/18 their only righties were centre Charlie Coyle, and Chris Stewart who was mostly a 4th liner before being claimed off waivers. In 18/19 they had Coyle (traded), Fehr (centre), Kunin (centre), J.T. Brown (4th line winger) and then they acquired Pontus Aberg mid-season but he's not really an impact player. So for two straight seasons they've had zero top-9 wingers who were right handed.

Zaitsev would have to get dealt in some way as well for cap purposes, and honestly who knows maybe Minnesota does see some value in him since losing Spurgeon would leave them with almost nothing on the right side.
Maybe it would take Kappy to get them to take Zaitsev and we'd get Spurgeon. That would be pretty expensive seeing he's only signed for 1 more year. Maybe a draft pick or lesser prospect?
 
herman said:
I had a weird dream where Marleau got traded for Kessel, and the line of Nylander - Kadri - Kessel put up 96 goals.

I?m with you here, Herman.

I had a dream not long ago where I jumped off the glass, skates on, scored a goal and helped the Leafs win the Cup!  😁 Seriously!  😊🙃🙂  Strange but wierd.  🥴
 
Any teams that need talented wingers that can be plugged in to the top two lines: the Leafs can help you. Leafs are paying Marner and Nylander some serious winger dough, after that I'm sure it's going to be a steady stream of ELC guys. Who needs winger scoring still decently priced for the next few years? The Leafs can help you.
 
hockeyfan1 said:
herman said:
I had a weird dream where Marleau got traded for Kessel, and the line of Nylander - Kadri - Kessel put up 96 goals.

I?m with you here, Herman.

I had a dream not long ago where I jumped off the glass, skates on, scored a goal and helped the Leafs win the Cup!  [emoji16] Seriously!  [emoji4][emoji854][emoji846]  Strange but wierd.  [emoji3061]


I've been beaten down so often as a Leafs fan I can't even have positive Leafs dreams any longer.
 
Guilt Trip said:
Maybe it would take Kappy to get them to take Zaitsev and we'd get Spurgeon. That would be pretty expensive seeing he's only signed for 1 more year. Maybe a draft pick or lesser prospect?

Or, the Leafs could just sign him to an extension, which is probably the most likely scenario. Honestly, I think the Leafs need to take advantage of Kapanen's value sooner rather than later, as I feel like his decision making is really going to keep him from approaching the potential he's shown. He's got great speed and good tools, but, he doesn't appear to have great hockey IQ. They need to move him before too many other teams come to the same conclusion.
 
I don't see the need to go out and get a high D man.  We have some pretty good talent pooling up down on the farm.
We can expect Rosen to make the jump, there is a lot of buzz on Borgman again for the sandpaper he brings, Sandin may need some more time in the AHL but maybe not. Lilepad is ready to jump.

The unknown is what Lindgren and Kivihalme bring to the table. I like the Athletic's take on Kivihalme.

Or how long Hollowell and Duzak will need to make the jump. Pretty sure the last two could use a year on the farm.
 
Highlander said:
I don't see the need to go out and get a high D man.  We have some pretty good talent pooling up down on the farm.
We can expect Rosen to make the jump, there is a lot of buzz on Borgman again for the sandpaper he brings, Sandin may need some more time in the AHL but maybe not. Lilepad is ready to jump.

The unknown is what Lindgren and Kivihalme bring to the table. I like the Athletic's take on Kivihalme.

Or how long Hollowell and Duzak will need to make the jump. Pretty sure the last two could use a year on the farm.

Thing is, we have some good forward talent on the farm waiting to make the jump too. Trading off Kappy for some experience D is not the worst idea ever. In fact I think it helps put us on a path to win a playoff round or three next season if they can swing the right deal. Kapanen shouldn't be too difficult to replace with guys like Moore, Bracco and Engvall all chomping at the bit.
 
Highlander said:
I don't see the need to go out and get a high D man.  We have some pretty good talent pooling up down on the farm.
We can expect Rosen to make the jump, there is a lot of buzz on Borgman again for the sandpaper he brings, Sandin may need some more time in the AHL but maybe not. Lilepad is ready to jump.

The unknown is what Lindgren and Kivihalme bring to the table. I like the Athletic's take on Kivihalme.

Or how long Hollowell and Duzak will need to make the jump. Pretty sure the last two could use a year on the farm.

Other than maybe Samson and Liljagren, none of the guys you mention are likely to be more than 3rd pairing types - especially in the near term. So, yeah, there very much is a need to bring in top 4 - and especially potential top pairing - guys.
 
bustaheims said:
Guilt Trip said:
Maybe it would take Kappy to get them to take Zaitsev and we'd get Spurgeon. That would be pretty expensive seeing he's only signed for 1 more year. Maybe a draft pick or lesser prospect?

Honestly, I think the Leafs need to take advantage of Kapanen's value sooner rather than later, as I feel like his decision making is really going to keep him from approaching the potential he's shown. He's got great speed and good tools, but, he doesn't appear to have great hockey IQ. They need to move him before too many other teams come to the same conclusion.

Yea, Kapanen's great when you want to skate from one end to the other in a straight line but when there's nuance and playmaking involved, he really seems out of his element. I agree, I'd sell high on him too; get a fairly young, legitimate top 4 RHD and I'm happy. 
 
I am certainly not adverse to seeing Kapanen go, I favour Johnsson in a very big way. Bracco is ready to jump. I like Kapi but doesn't have the finish yet.  Is Hamilton a target for us?  Pair him with Rielly or what about Trouba?  Or are we talking huge money here?
Forgot to mention both Rasanen and Gordeev (who is deep into the playoffs) as potential future players although I assume both are at least 3 years away.
 
Andy said:
bustaheims said:
Guilt Trip said:
Maybe it would take Kappy to get them to take Zaitsev and we'd get Spurgeon. That would be pretty expensive seeing he's only signed for 1 more year. Maybe a draft pick or lesser prospect?

Honestly, I think the Leafs need to take advantage of Kapanen's value sooner rather than later, as I feel like his decision making is really going to keep him from approaching the potential he's shown. He's got great speed and good tools, but, he doesn't appear to have great hockey IQ. They need to move him before too many other teams come to the same conclusion.

Yea, Kapanen's great when you want to skate from one end to the other in a straight line but when there's nuance and playmaking involved, he really seems out of his element. I agree, I'd sell high on him too; get a fairly young, legitimate top 4 RHD and I'm happy.
Kapanen is a legit two way player with elite speed. I would keep him and Johnsson over Nylander any day of the week. Yes, Nylander has more hockey IQ as you call it, but he is slow, lazy, and selfish by comparison. I probably would have sat Nylander out for the season and used the extra cap space to get a good rental player. If our failed season came down to one player it was Nylander. I?m completely disappointed in him as a fan. If Kapanen does go I hope we can get good value for him at least.
 

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