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Armchair GM 2017-2018

With Orlov and Niskanen locked up long term, and being under cap hell, is it worth making a play for Carlson (with a stack of cheapo filler) a la the Grabner deal?

They have a lot of contract room (43/50), and currently only have 4M in cap space to fill out 2D and 4F positions.

Taking Carlson gives them 7M - the 4-5 <1M filler we send back: Lindberg, Rychel, Valiev, Ben Smith, Marchenko (they can waive if they want to).

Gardiner - Carlson
Rielly - Zaitsev
Hainsey - Carrick
Marincin - Rosen/whoever
 
herman said:
With Orlov and Niskanen locked up long term, and being under cap hell, is it worth making a play for Carlson (with a stack of cheapo filler) a la the Grabner deal?

They have a lot of contract room (43/50), and currently only have 4M in cap space to fill out 2D and 4F positions.

Taking Carlson gives them 7M - the 4-5 <1M filler we send back: Lindberg, Rychel, Valiev, Ben Smith, Marchenko (they can waive if they want to).

Gardiner - Carlson
Rielly - Zaitsev
Hainsey - Carrick
Marincin - Rosen/whoever
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Well, I don't doubt that Washington is feeling pressure to clear some cap space and Toronto is feeling the pressure to clear some contracts- but you aren't getting Carlson ($1) for a handful of nickels.  You have to at least include some quarters (1st round pick, Kapanen, Dermott etc) and I bet Washington STILL wants better than that considering their window is now.
 
I don't think the Caps are at a point where they'd trade Carlson, arguably their best defenseman, without getting much of anything in return. I think they're much more likely to just fill out their roster with minimum salary deals/rookies.
 
Yeah, at the risk of sounding harsh there's no way in hell that trade happens. John Carlson (top pairing defenceman) is no Michael Grabner (good 4th liner).

Washington isn't even really in cap hell. The Johansson trade took care of that. They probably won't even have that much trouble re-signing Carlson next season. Worst case scenario for them is they'll have to buyout Orpik's final year to make it happen.
 
Ah, bummer. I guess they're not ready to push Orlov into the top 4 after giving him a 5M long term deal?
 
herman said:
Ah, bummer. I guess they're not ready to push Orlov into the top 4 after giving him a 5M long term deal?
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Orlov's a top-3 defencemen for them, and arguably was last season too (led them in even-strength ice time, was primarily paired with Niskanen). The plan is for them to go with Orlov-Niskanen / x-Carlson / Orpik-x next season.
 
herman said:
Ah, bummer. I guess they're not ready to push Orlov into the top 4 after giving him a 5M long term deal?
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1. I don't see how you get there. Orlov played mainly with other RHD last year(750 minutes with Niskanen, almost 400 with Carlson).

2. Even if Niskanen and Orlov on the right side made Carlson superfluous, they're still going to want good value for him.

 
Not sure if this is another case of capfriendly causing some confusion since they have him listed as "RD", but Orlov is a leftie.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Not sure if this is another case of capfriendly causing some confusion since they have him listed as "RD", but Orlov is a leftie.
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That's what it was in my case.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Not sure if this is another case of capfriendly causing some confusion since they have him listed as "RD", but Orlov is a leftie.
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That's my confusion exactly. I thought I zoomed in to check his handedness, but that must've been Carlson and Niskanen.
 
Marleau  Matthews Nylander
JVR    Bozak  Marner 
Brown  Kadri  Kapanen
Martin/Moore/Uncle Leo/Hyman

Dynamite upfront, that D though.
 
cabber24 said:
Marleau  Matthews Nylander
JVR    Bozak  Marner 
Brown  Kadri  Kapanen
Martin/Moore/Uncle Leo/Hyman

Dynamite upfront, that D though.
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Yeah. I wish we could say, the D will look after itself,  but we all know they need some help back there if they want to climb further up the standings.
 
A report from Russia indicates that Babcock and Lamoriello met with CSKA RH defenseman Igor Ozhiganov recently.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDaktr3S1g4

Per a redditor who has followed him closely, this is the defenseman that Kucherov has been trying to sell Tampa on. He has one year left on his contract in the KHL.
 
herman said:
A report from Russia indicates that Babcock and Lamoriello met with CSKA RH defenseman Igor Ozhiganov recently.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDaktr3S1g4

Per a redditor who has followed him closely, this is the defenseman that Kucherov has been trying to sell Tampa on. He has one year left on his contract in the KHL.
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This article here, from about a year ago, has a pretty big write-up on him: http://pucksandrecreation.com/across-the-pond-european-ufas-with-nhl-future-part-2/

Certainly sounds like an intriguing player. Wonder if there's any way around that final year of his KHL deal.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
This article here, from about a year ago, has a pretty big write-up on him: http://pucksandrecreation.com/across-the-pond-european-ufas-with-nhl-future-part-2/

Certainly sounds like an intriguing player. Wonder if there's any way around that final year of his KHL deal.
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If he wanted to, he could buy out his final year, a la Petri Kontiola.
I like the sound of his profile, as he has the tools and gumption to be a big blueline meanie but has decided to use his skating and hands for goal scoring instead.
 
https://twitter.com/PensInsideScoop/status/908689317874323456
https://twitter.com/PensInsideScoop/status/908690098983751680
https://twitter.com/PensInsideScoop/status/908690259147415552

Hmmmmmmmmm. A right fit eh? If only there was a centre around who had experience with their big-time winger who hasn't exactly seemed to click 100% with their big-2 centres.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
https://twitter.com/PensInsideScoop/status/908689317874323456
https://twitter.com/PensInsideScoop/status/908690098983751680
https://twitter.com/PensInsideScoop/status/908690259147415552

Hmmmmmmmmm. A right fit eh? If only there was a centre around who had experience with their big-time winger who hasn't exactly seemed to click 100% with their big-2 centres.
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I was thinking that too, but what does Pittsburgh have at this point to offer up other than late first round picks?
 
Significantly Insignificant said:
I was thinking that too, but what does Pittsburgh have at this point to offer up other than late first round picks?
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Yeah, that's about it. Pronman ranked them as the worst prospect pool in the league this summer. Which is incredibly fair. After Daniel Sprong, who isn't going anywhere, they've basically got nothing.
 
Significantly Insignificant said:
I was thinking that too, but what does Pittsburgh have at this point to offer up other than late first round picks?
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By not trading Bozak by now, the idea that you're going to get substantially more for him than a late first round pick is pretty tenuous.
 
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