Armchair GM 2021-2022: Catharsis
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Guilt Trip
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Don't see a forward coming.. D man, yupJoe S. said:
bustaheims
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Joe S. said:
Unless they move a contract out, the team will likely only be able to fit guys on contracts at/near the league minimum or with serious (likely double) retention.
I suspect we won't see much more than some depth/injury insurance type additions. Can't see the team going in for any of the bigger names - especially with cap considerations brought into play - and there's not a ton of super interesting mid-tier guys out there. So, I guess, whichever Coyote forward seems to appeal to Dubas (as the majority of their roster are pending free agents).
I'm not entirely sure if the Leafs organization is itching to move on from Holl like the fan base might be but if they are Vancouver could be an interesting trade partner. 1) Rutherford loves to make trades, 2) Rutherford has a history of acquiring shutdown RHD who may or may not be great in that role, and 3) Luke Schenn is currently on their top pairing to the right of Quinn Hughes.
Frank E
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OEL has 5 points in 26 games, and another 5 years at $7.26m cap hit...and that's the discounted cap hit from the $8.25m AAV his contract pays. There are no significant $ contracts expiring this season's end.
I don't know how they fix this quick...I have to think that Rutherford has a 5 year plan...and that's if they can draft high in the first round for a while.
I don't know how they fix this quick...I have to think that Rutherford has a 5 year plan...and that's if they can draft high in the first round for a while.
WhatIfGodWasALeaf
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They have kids huffing glue live on Twitter these days.
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herman
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I think we (and the other team) are at a good spot now to manifest this:
Toronto lands John Klingberg in blockbuster trade a month ahead of the deadline
Nick Robertson joins his brother as Dallas retools for their future
With his team within striking distance of the President's Trophy, Kyle Dubas doubled down on his belief in his core late last night with a blockbuster deal to acquire top defenseman and pending UFA John Klingberg from the Dallas Stars for up and coming sniper Nick Robertson, Justin Holl, Brennan Menell, and a 2023 top-10 protected 1st Rd pick. Toronto also acquires Dallas' 3rd rd pick in 2022, and Toronto-native Wyatt Johnson in the transaction. No salary is retained on this deal as Dubas had previously cleared the space, sending Nick Ritchie back to Anaheim for a 5th rd pick.
Toronto lands John Klingberg in blockbuster trade a month ahead of the deadline
Nick Robertson joins his brother as Dallas retools for their future
With his team within striking distance of the President's Trophy, Kyle Dubas doubled down on his belief in his core late last night with a blockbuster deal to acquire top defenseman and pending UFA John Klingberg from the Dallas Stars for up and coming sniper Nick Robertson, Justin Holl, Brennan Menell, and a 2023 top-10 protected 1st Rd pick. Toronto also acquires Dallas' 3rd rd pick in 2022, and Toronto-native Wyatt Johnson in the transaction. No salary is retained on this deal as Dubas had previously cleared the space, sending Nick Ritchie back to Anaheim for a 5th rd pick.
Guilt Trip
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Haha Wyatt Johnson is a guy that's 26 years old playing in University. Wyatt Johnston plays for Windsor.herman said:
bustaheims
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If we're going to give up that kind of value, I'd rather target someone like Chychrun who will at least be here for a couple years.
Dallas including one of their top prospects in Wyatt Johnston kinda throws off the value here. I really don't see why they'd do that.
herman said:
Fair enough, he definitely sounded like more of a throw-in from your description hah. Won't pretend to know everything about him but quick glance shows he was a 1st rounder in last years draft who's currently 6th in OHL scoring so yeah probably not going anywhere right now.
Also just generally I don't see Dallas trading Klingberg (they have oodles of cap space so they'll re-sign him eventually) and I don't see Toronto being that interested in him. If closer to the deadline Holl is still playing like he is now then I could see them being in the market for a guy to play alongside Muzzin in tough minutes and on the PK and those aren't Klingberg's strengths.
The UFA market for defencemen like that isn't really great. Ben Chiarot is overrated and will cost an arm and a leg. Josh Manson would be interesting but Anaheim is comfortably in a playoff spot at this point (could always change though). Justin Braun would be kinda interesting. Cheap ($1.8mil AAV) veteran right-handed defenceman with seemingly good defensive metrics. Probably more ideally a high-end 3rd pairing guy but if Muzzin still has the ability to elevate those types of players (which remains to be seen right now) it could work.
The other option would be targeting guys with 1 year left on their deals still, in which case I'm right back on the "acquire Damon Severson" train (would be tricky with the cap though).
The UFA market for defencemen like that isn't really great. Ben Chiarot is overrated and will cost an arm and a leg. Josh Manson would be interesting but Anaheim is comfortably in a playoff spot at this point (could always change though). Justin Braun would be kinda interesting. Cheap ($1.8mil AAV) veteran right-handed defenceman with seemingly good defensive metrics. Probably more ideally a high-end 3rd pairing guy but if Muzzin still has the ability to elevate those types of players (which remains to be seen right now) it could work.
The other option would be targeting guys with 1 year left on their deals still, in which case I'm right back on the "acquire Damon Severson" train (would be tricky with the cap though).
Guilt Trip
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True enough but I don't see the Leafs throwing in one of their top prospects, plus a 1st without getting something decent in return, especially for a rental. I also don't see Dallas letting Kilngberg go. They will have space to sign him because they can let some old guys walk like Radulov and Pavelski. That's save them 13.25 mill. If we're giving up a 1st again it has to be for some kind of term.CarltonTheBear said:
bustaheims
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No high priced rentals, period. If they're a pending UFA, the Leafs shouldn't be giving up more than a 4th round pick. I'm happy for the team to only add depth pieces and injury insurance types at the deadline.