Armchair GM 2021-2022: Catharsis
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OldTimeHockey
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L K said:
Yeah they really don't have the pieces to make it happen, but he is the perfect fit. As another sudbury guy. But in all seriousness, i see him as a Hyman with more a 'F' you attitude
WhatIfGodWasALeaf
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herman said:
How dare you.
I was reading that there were rumblings of Stamkos being moved out of Tampa.
Not saying that it would ever happen, but how would people feel if he was move for Marner or Nylander? Sideways move, or does it make the team better? Does having three centers of that calibre lead to success for the Leafs, or do they still end up with depth problems?
Not saying that it would ever happen, but how would people feel if he was move for Marner or Nylander? Sideways move, or does it make the team better? Does having three centers of that calibre lead to success for the Leafs, or do they still end up with depth problems?
herman
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Significantly Insignificant said:
I think that closes the contention window to one year. Marner/Nylander still have growth paths in an upward trajectory. His injury history has rendered Stamkos no longer an option at centre (and really, Tavares might be on that same path in 2-3 years).
RYAN DONATO, MATTIAS JANMARK, MARK PYSYK, ERIK GUDBRANSON, ROBERT BORTUZZO, C?DRIC PAQUETTE, RYAN MURRAY, BRENDAN SMITH, CODY CECI, DEREK STEPAN might be the type of players TO is really interested in. The press like to link TO to everyone that's sexy, personally I can hardly wait till TO signs Landeskog and Hamilton because it must be precap days like the press thinks it is.
None of the players I've mentioned are high profile and most are on the decline but I think they all would provide greater value than Ho-Sang and Galchenyk, Galy's ill advised pass that cost TO the game is the type of game/brain fart I'd expect from either of those 2.
Actually I don't expect TO to do anything tomorrow, mostly TO will probably look for value after the first day of FA.
None of the players I've mentioned are high profile and most are on the decline but I think they all would provide greater value than Ho-Sang and Galchenyk, Galy's ill advised pass that cost TO the game is the type of game/brain fart I'd expect from either of those 2.
Actually I don't expect TO to do anything tomorrow, mostly TO will probably look for value after the first day of FA.
Bullfrog said:
Kerfoot's a goner next summer I think. That's partially why I'm really hoping he gets glued to one of the top lines. Try to pump up his value as much as possible and he could be an appealing asset with 1-year left on his contract and only a $750,000 salary (assuming he gets dealt after the Leafs pay his $1.95mil signing bonus).
L K
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Unless the cap keeps going up we are just going to keep shedding players.
Next season it's Rielly, Sandin and Campbell (and Mikheyev/Spezza) who need new contracts. As it stands right now that's a 9F, 4D, 1G roster with 13.7M in cap space left.
Campbell - 2.5M, Rielly 6.5, Sandin 2M = 11.0 - leaving 2.7 million for 3 forwards. And that's a barebones roster.
Then the following year its Holl and Dermott.
The year after that is Nylander/Matthews.
Next season it's Rielly, Sandin and Campbell (and Mikheyev/Spezza) who need new contracts. As it stands right now that's a 9F, 4D, 1G roster with 13.7M in cap space left.
Campbell - 2.5M, Rielly 6.5, Sandin 2M = 11.0 - leaving 2.7 million for 3 forwards. And that's a barebones roster.
Then the following year its Holl and Dermott.
The year after that is Nylander/Matthews.
I wonder how much Rielly's offence slightly drying up is going to affect his contract. Krug at $6.5mil seems like a reasonable comparison but he was coming off 3 straight seasons where he was pretty much consistently at the 65-point pace level. He was 6th among defencemen in points in that 3 season stretch and 5th in points per game. He was one of the top offensive defencemen in the game.
Rielly followed up his massive 18/19 season with a 47-point pace season and then a 52-point pace season. He's 9th in points and points per game over the last 3 years but that's largely based off that 18/19 season. Over the past 2 seasons he's tied for 27th in points and tied for 19th in points per game. And considering the team seem to be moving towards having Sandin run the top PP unit I wouldn't be that surprised if he fell below the 50-point mark again this upcoming season.
So I don't doubt that Rielly will be looking for big bucks on his next contract but his offensive numbers are dropping to the point where he's not among the highest scoring defencemen anymore, he plays big 5-on-5 minutes but hasn't been handling the toughest defensive assignments for a little while now, he might dropped to the second powerplay unit, and he only PKs when another defenceman is in the penalty box. I love Rielly and all but looking at this logically unless he has an absolutely monster 21/22 season I'm not even really sure how you justify giving him more than what Muzzin got on his extension.
Rielly followed up his massive 18/19 season with a 47-point pace season and then a 52-point pace season. He's 9th in points and points per game over the last 3 years but that's largely based off that 18/19 season. Over the past 2 seasons he's tied for 27th in points and tied for 19th in points per game. And considering the team seem to be moving towards having Sandin run the top PP unit I wouldn't be that surprised if he fell below the 50-point mark again this upcoming season.
So I don't doubt that Rielly will be looking for big bucks on his next contract but his offensive numbers are dropping to the point where he's not among the highest scoring defencemen anymore, he plays big 5-on-5 minutes but hasn't been handling the toughest defensive assignments for a little while now, he might dropped to the second powerplay unit, and he only PKs when another defenceman is in the penalty box. I love Rielly and all but looking at this logically unless he has an absolutely monster 21/22 season I'm not even really sure how you justify giving him more than what Muzzin got on his extension.
L K said:
Imagine what the team could look like with the extra $10mil they'd probably have in cap space if it wasn't for the pandemic.
Highlander
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Imagine what my bank account would look like with no pandemic and Hurricanes of 17. I could retire. Now I will work until my shoe fall off. Ok I am crying, but know many people far worse off. Lost everything.CarltonTheBear said:
