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Bozak's Future

Michael said:
Dreger - Told no progress on Bozak extension talks with Leafs. Negotiation is ongoing. Sense is Nonis will not do $5 x 5yrs. Will someone else? #TSN

Calgary.  Jay Feaster loves these types of deals.
 
Honestly, I'm not a Bozak hater, but I'd really like to turn over a new leaf here and pick up a guy who's at least a #2 center, if we can't get a true #1.
 
Michael said:
Dreger - Told no progress on Bozak extension talks with Leafs. Negotiation is ongoing. Sense is Nonis will not do $5 x 5yrs. Will someone else? #TSN

For a guy who's never hit 50 points in his career? I sure hope so.
 
mr grieves said:
Michael said:
Dreger - Told no progress on Bozak extension talks with Leafs. Negotiation is ongoing. Sense is Nonis will not do $5 x 5yrs. Will someone else? #TSN

For a guy who's never hit 50 points in his career? I sure hope so.

Saw this on Twitter, not sure if accurate:

"Tyler Bozak has 8 points in his entire 5 on 5 career without Phil Kessel on the ice with him".

Would be interesting to see how much actual ice time he has 5 on 5 without Kessel.
 
Zee said:
mr grieves said:
Michael said:
Dreger - Told no progress on Bozak extension talks with Leafs. Negotiation is ongoing. Sense is Nonis will not do $5 x 5yrs. Will someone else? #TSN

For a guy who's never hit 50 points in his career? I sure hope so.

Saw this on Twitter, not sure if accurate:

"Tyler Bozak has 8 points in his entire 5 on 5 career without Phil Kessel on the ice with him".

Would be interesting to see how much actual ice time he has 5 on 5 without Kessel.

3354 career 5v5 minutes: 2769 w/Kessel, 584 w/out. 82% of his 5v5 mins with Kessel.
 
AvroArrow said:
Honestly, I'm not a Bozak hater, but I'd really like to turn over a new leaf here and pick up a guy who's at least a #2 center, if we can't get a true #1.

Now that Nonis/Carlyle have pissed away Grabovski this is how I feel too.
 
Potvin29 said:
Zee said:
mr grieves said:
Michael said:
Dreger - Told no progress on Bozak extension talks with Leafs. Negotiation is ongoing. Sense is Nonis will not do $5 x 5yrs. Will someone else? #TSN

For a guy who's never hit 50 points in his career? I sure hope so.

Saw this on Twitter, not sure if accurate:

"Tyler Bozak has 8 points in his entire 5 on 5 career without Phil Kessel on the ice with him".

Would be interesting to see how much actual ice time he has 5 on 5 without Kessel.

3354 career 5v5 minutes: 2769 w/Kessel, 584 w/out. 82% of his 5v5 mins with Kessel.

If the 8 ES points without Kessel stat is accurate, then 91.5% of his ES points come with Kessel on the ice.

I don't think there is much to conclude from that though, since such a large portion of his ES TOI was with Phil.
 
OK, if you take Bozak off the line with Kessel and put Kadri there, Kadri's points are going to increase but is that increase in points enough to make up for the drop in points that Bozak would have, no. Bozak has never topped 50 points as a 1st line center, how many points would he get without Kessel's help.
 
hobarth said:
OK, if you take Bozak off the line with Kessel and put Kadri there, Kadri's points are going to increase but is that increase in points enough to make up for the drop in points that Bozak would have, no. Bozak has never topped 50 points as a 1st line center, how many points would he get without Kessel's help.

Right now about half his points have been scored with out Kessel on the ice.
 
freer said:
hobarth said:
OK, if you take Bozak off the line with Kessel and put Kadri there, Kadri's points are going to increase but is that increase in points enough to make up for the drop in points that Bozak would have, no. Bozak has never topped 50 points as a 1st line center, how many points would he get without Kessel's help.

Right now about half his points have been scored with out Kessel on the ice.

Where do you find that info?
 
freer said:
Right now about half his points have been scored with out Kessel on the ice.

Yeah, I already showed you that's not true. About half came without Kessel also earning a point, but ~75% have come with Kessel on the ice.
 
Bozak has 32 points on the season. Kessel has earned a point in 16 (50%) of them and has been on the ice for 26 (81%) of them.

Of those 6 points that Bozak scored without Kessel on the ice, 2 were shorthanded, two were with the oppositions goalies pulled, and one was with the Leafs goalie pulled.

So of his 15 5-on-5 even-strength points this season Kessel has been on the ice for all but 1 and recorded a point in 10 of them.

edit: just made a slight terminology change
 
At 5v5 this season:

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Overall at even-strength, Daniel Winnik has more points than Bozak (20 to 19).  Maybe someone will still want him for his face-offs?
 
I think the most likely scenario is that Bozak and maybe Phaneuf are gone by the deadline, and Kessel stays around...at least until the summer. Kessel may get traded before the draft but I think it's just as likely they keep him and try to put together a better supporting cast (especially a real #1 center).

I think my preference would be for all of them to go and start building around Rielly and maybe Kadri, but I highly doubt the Leafs are willing to tear it down completely.
 
freer said:
Highlander said:
Time to move Bozak the Clone?how will Phil reacte?

I think both are going to be gone come dead line time.

Considering the cost to acquire him and the cap hit he comes with, there's almost 0% chance Kessel is moved at the deadline. Teams don't move the kind of pieces the Leafs will want in return for Kessel mid-season. If Kessel is moved, it'll be around the draft.
 

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