Ducks shopping Ryan
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Corn Flake
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Zee said:Corn Flake said:
Komisarek.
It is a possibility, actually. He's played well enough to not just be a salary dump and at least show he isn't done. Ducks need someone who can contribute but Komi isn't due back for weeks. Might not fit their timeline if they are in a hurry to do something (panic move?).
I'm going to assume Kulemin's name starts to show up a lot in possible scenarios. Both are wingers having off years. He could be a big'ish piece.
CW's idea of Blake coming back and being buried (ECHL! ECHL!) is interesting.
Komi + Kulemin + Blake for Ryan + pick?
Tigger said:
Not enthusiastically. Depends on the deal of course. He'd be the last dman I'd want to part with from our franchise. Fantastic cap value right now. The trick is I don't know how high his offensive upside will prove to be. He's got a chance to turn out as a top dman in the league.
At risk of getting flamed and folks thinking I've gone absolutely crazy, I don't know if I'd take Ryan straight up for him. Gardiner has really impressed me - more than I recall Kaberle or Markov impressing me when they broke in. I think good puck moving dmen are kind of worth more than wingers. I'd truly have to think about it.
If Komi was playing well for a longer period than he has to date and he was in the last two years of his deal, the Ducks might bite to get that $1 mil payroll vs cap savings. But I really doubt his $4.5 mil cap hit would appeal to any NHL teams right now - unless the Leafs took substantial garbage cap/payroll dollars back.
Corn Flake
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Tigger said:
Slim to no chance.
With a player as high an upside as him already carving out a permanent spot in the NHL and being as good as he is right now, they don't get much more valuable than that.
If the Leafs were trying to win this year, I would say its quite possible. But they aren't, so its almost unpossible.
Colborne IMO would be more likely to be dealt at this point than Gardiner.
cw said:
I agree, it's not an easy call at all and unattractive to the Leafs. To me a Schenn and Kadri offer is more appealing and I don't really like that too much either. ( also may not work from the Ducks end )
Grabbo seems like a guy that could be moved, though I'm not sure the Ducks would fall for it.
Franson, Kadri and a 1st?
I really dunno, if I was Anaheim I wouldn't trade Ryan for the most part.
Corn Flake
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Bonsixx said:
True. But, Gardiner's value has gone up quite a bit since that trade, plus with Ryan struggling and now on an expensive contract I think you have to weigh the risks there.
There shouldn't be untouchables at all.. in any case ... for any player.
Even Reimer or Kessel.. would still trade either one today for the right deal. Would have to be one helluva deal of course, but would still move them.
RedLeaf said:
With the Leafs current cap situation, if Ryan's $5.1 mil cap hit gets added to the Leafs roster, roughly $5.1 mil must come off somehow:
http://www.capgeek.com/charts.php?Team=4
"Projected Cap Space $0"
With the injuries, there may be some creative accounting/moves that can be done to help. But something would have to give.
iwas11in67
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It's just kinda nice even considering being a possible trade partner with enough assets to make something happen.
gilmourthegreat
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I think a trade could work based on need. The Ducks are thin on defence, and don't have a promising young centre, unless you count Cogliano, who is quickly approaching bust status.
What about Grabbo, Kadri and Franson for Ryan
Lupul-Bozak-Kessel
Ryan-Connolly-Mac
Kuli-Lombardi-Army
Brown-Steckel-Frattin
Looks solid. Do you think Anaheim would bite?
What about Grabbo, Kadri and Franson for Ryan
Lupul-Bozak-Kessel
Ryan-Connolly-Mac
Kuli-Lombardi-Army
Brown-Steckel-Frattin
Looks solid. Do you think Anaheim would bite?
maplesyrup
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Gilmour the Great said:
I'm not sure what kind of value an unsigned Grabo has to a team likely not to finish in the playoffs.
iwas11in67
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Expiring contracts (like Grabbo) can be very useful in a cap world
bustaheims
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A good comparison for value on a Ryan deal might be the Carter trade. They're similar calibre players with similar stats over the past few seasons. Carter is a little older and on a longer contract, so that drops his value slightly, but, they're still pretty good comparables. Basically, that means, for the Leafs, we'd be looking at something along the lines of Kulemin, Kadri (what Philly wanted for Carter) and a pick/prospect (not necessarily a 1st - maybe a lesser prospect than Kadri if the Leafs' 1st is included). As much as I like Kulemin, I think I'd be tempted to make that deal.
maplesyrup
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Kulemin + Kadri + Blacker (or something like that.) I think that would be a very competitive offer on Burke's part.
McPwnage
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How about ryan for grabovski, macarthur, franson for ryan, that would free up the salary required to aquire ryan. It is really good for us if grabovski doesn't want to stay in Toronto and we can sign getzlaf in 2013 to round ourselves out as a contender.
Lupul - Bozak - Kessel
Ryan - Connolly - Kulemin
Frattin - Lombardi - Armstrong
Brown - Steckel - Dupis
Lupul - Bozak - Kessel
Ryan - Connolly - Kulemin
Frattin - Lombardi - Armstrong
Brown - Steckel - Dupis