You mean like the same one Pollievere has?
Federal Election 2019
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Andy007
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That was exactly what I meant
Andy007
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I'm not sure that people even understand their anger. The things alot of folks are angry about (costs, inflation, food prices, corporate greed) are all things that either a) have nothing to do with Trudeau as PM or b) will be worse under Consevative leadership. To say nothing of the free-dumb crowd who are still mad that they were told to wear a mask during a potential mass pandemic
herman
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It's like there's been some sort of organized campaign to shout slogans and wonky information through media or something...
I have no idea how to take comments anymore - I get confused as to who is mocking what.
I see you have met my relatives. They tell me how they can't afford anything things to Trudeau, followed by pictures of their 4th vacation trip of the year.
Yes things have gotten more expensive, but not all the blame is on the feds.
herman
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Leaf fans know media narrative can drive a lot of sentiment, without silly things like facts and stats getting in the way. And no one wants to interrogate their own beliefs or adjust their prior assumptions.
Lobbies spend ridiculous amounts of money to maintain their status quo (of making ridiculous amounts of money off the proletariat). Russia has spent the past decade or so pushing their agenda through social media (bot farms) and allegedly blackmailing several Republican officials and steering susceptible media outlets to destabilize the West. Just need to get enough momentum to tip it over the edge.
I get what you're saying, I just think the die was cast once Trump was elected. Trudeau wasn't going to step down there and then and there would've been a vote of non-confidence that would've passed at some point in the new year. If Trudeau didn't step down earlier last year (which I agree he should have) then it's hard to see too many other outcomes like this, but yes it's definitely not a good thing.
I also think Trump is a wildcard. It's just as possible he wouldn't agree to anything with Trudeau at the helm literally just for the humiliation aspect, also known as the lulz. We also really don't know what will actually appease him.
Andy007
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Sorry, I wasn't explicit with my meaning there, and you're right, we are living in the age when anyone can mock anything without a hint of irony or self awareness, so...yea... It's kind of a crapshoot sometimes...
AtomicMapleLeaf2
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I'm born and raised from Toronto, moved to the States in '84. Didn't pay attention to politics until the early 2000s. The shit that I was so against for the last 20 years seems like it's raising it's ugly head in Canada. Makes me sad as I've always promoted how much of a better country it was compared to the States
Ozzie
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What specifically is raising its ugly head?
Highlander
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fiscal responsibility and a balanced budget?
OldTimeHockey
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This is great, and I would agree that a good number of people are angry just to be angry....but that's true no matter your political alliances.
leafsjunkie
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I think too many people don't possess critical thinking skills and are easily convinced based on emotions and constant misinformation on social media.
And people don’t read anymore. They see headlines and draw their own conclusions, or get their news from reels, Tik tok and Facebook. It’s depressing. Facts don’t matter anymore.
AtomicMapleLeaf2
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Racism is the first thing I noticed when I moved here as a 19 year old, then when I started following politics the
To make a long story short, the increased rise of making money over people the agenda.