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Getzlaf and Ryan "in play" according to Bob Murray

I have this sinking feeling that the Flyers are going to offer JVR and because he's a "sexy" name they build a package around that.

Even though he's about to become expensive and his career high is 40 points and he might not even beat that this year. 
 
Out of all of this, I can't understand for the life of me why Koivu, a pending UFA on the verge of retirement, is an untouchable.
 
Busta Reims said:
Out of all of this, I can't understand for the life of me why Koivu, a pending UFA on the verge of retirement, is an untouchable.

Because he and Selanne are welded together.
 
Busta Reims said:
Out of all of this, I can't understand for the life of me why Koivu, a pending UFA on the verge of retirement, is an untouchable.

I think he has a no movement clause.
 
Boston Leaf said:
how about Schenn, Kadri and our 1st?

Murray did say he wouldn't be unloading his big guys for picks... my guess would be he would want something more like a Bozak or another (Grabbo?) who is ready now instead of the pick.... or in addition.

What does everyone think of the concept of say moving Kulemin, Grabbo and Schenn for Getz? 
 
TML fan said:
Busta Reims said:
Out of all of this, I can't understand for the life of me why Koivu, a pending UFA on the verge of retirement, is an untouchable.

I think he has a no movement clause.

That still shouldn't make him untouchable, just more difficult to move.
 
Corn Flake said:
Boston Leaf said:
how about Schenn, Kadri and our 1st?

Murray did say he wouldn't be unloading his big guys for picks... my guess would be he would want something more like a Bozak or another (Grabbo?) who is ready now instead of the pick.... or in addition.

What does everyone think of the concept of say moving Kulemin, Grabbo and Schenn for Getz?

I dont think Grabbo has much value considering he is a pending UFA. 

Check your PMs
 
Busta Reims said:
TML fan said:
Busta Reims said:
Out of all of this, I can't understand for the life of me why Koivu, a pending UFA on the verge of retirement, is an untouchable.

I think he has a no movement clause.

That still shouldn't make him untouchable, just more difficult to move.

There is a limitation to the no move clause: "Can only be traded with Teemu Selanne and their bunk bed."
 
Corn Flake said:
Boston Leaf said:
how about Schenn, Kadri and our 1st?

Murray did say he wouldn't be unloading his big guys for picks... my guess would be he would want something more like a Bozak or another (Grabbo?) who is ready now instead of the pick.... or in addition.

What does everyone think of the concept of say moving Kulemin, Grabbo and Schenn for Getz?

A bit of an over payment. we cant empty three top line spots to fill one, that would be a step back. keep kul and toss in mac and then I would take that chance.
 
but who would we be bidding against?  there has to be a ton of teams interested.  Murray is taking a page out of Burkes playbook in using the media to drive up prices.

I would think that a minimum of 15 teams would be interested and some heavy hitters too.
LA likes the big name players. Philly isn't afraid of big trades. Washington, getzlaf and Ovie...wow. Detroit always seems to be rumoured on these big deals.  Florida, could put them into the playoffs. STL? MIN? PIT? NYI? NYR for that matter. Would Edm put together a packeage of young cheap players? 

can toronto outbid all of the interested teams? now more goes into it then that...but toronto is in the east, burke and murray obviously are willing to deal with each other fairly often and we might have the peices to do it.
 
sneakyray said:
but who would we be bidding against?  there has to be a ton of teams interested.  Murray is taking a page out of Burkes playbook in using the media to drive up prices.

I would think that a minimum of 15 teams would be interested and some heavy hitters too.
LA likes the big name players. Philly isn't afraid of big trades. Washington, getzlaf and Ovie...wow. Detroit always seems to be rumoured on these big deals.  Florida, could put them into the playoffs. STL? MIN? PIT? NYI? NYR for that matter. Would Edm put together a packeage of young cheap players? 

can toronto outbid all of the interested teams? now more goes into it then that...but toronto is in the east, burke and murray obviously are willing to deal with each other fairly often and we might have the peices to do it.

This is why I mentioned that Burke only seems to get "name players" when you don't hear any rumours beforehand. Once a bidding war starts with other teams, forget it.
 
Erndog said:
Corn Flake said:
Boston Leaf said:
how about Schenn, Kadri and our 1st?

Murray did say he wouldn't be unloading his big guys for picks... my guess would be he would want something more like a Bozak or another (Grabbo?) who is ready now instead of the pick.... or in addition.

What does everyone think of the concept of say moving Kulemin, Grabbo and Schenn for Getz?

I dont think Grabbo has much value considering he is a pending UFA. 

Check your PMs

but if anaheim is broke then it frees up 3mil at the end of the year...its just a bit of freedom in a cap world.  Having said that I still think that anaheim wants cheaper, good players.

players like gunner, kulemin, bozak, kadri, frattin, colborne, aulie.
maybe schenn, mac are at the top end of the price range.

just some thoughts.
 
@reporterchrisChris Johnston
Brian Burke is scheduled to speak with reporters at noon. No word yet on the news.

I am sure it is unrelated..... or not? lol
 
Fanatic said:
@reporterchrisChris Johnston
Brian Burke is scheduled to speak with reporters at noon. No word yet on the news.

I am sure it is unrelated..... or not? lol

He sure knows how to build hype.
 
Fanatic said:
@reporterchrisChris Johnston
Brian Burke is scheduled to speak with reporters at noon. No word yet on the news.

I am sure it is unrelated..... or not? lol

Probably about Phaneuf's selection to the all-star game.  Coincidental.
 
nutman said:
Corn Flake said:
Boston Leaf said:
how about Schenn, Kadri and our 1st?

Murray did say he wouldn't be unloading his big guys for picks... my guess would be he would want something more like a Bozak or another (Grabbo?) who is ready now instead of the pick.... or in addition.

What does everyone think of the concept of say moving Kulemin, Grabbo and Schenn for Getz?

A bit of an over payment. we cant empty three top line spots to fill one, that would be a step back. keep kul and toss in mac and then I would take that chance.

Kulemin is a great second line player, but not a first-liner and certainly not even in the same galaxy as a franchise type player Getzlaf is. Schenn can be an effective shut-down guy but certainly not the cornerstone type defenceman we hoped he be nor am I holding my breath that he'll turn out that way. Grabo (like Kulemin) probably falls in to the second-line caliber player Kulemin does but as stated earlier, has marginal value due to his contract status (unless said status is the attraction.)

Personally, if I'm Murray, I'm looking for a better deal than Kulemin, Schenn, and Grabo and as a Leaf fan, I'd be over the moon if that was all it took to acquire Getzlaf because the pieces we'd be giving up are largely replaceable. 
 
Erndog said:
Fanatic said:
@reporterchrisChris Johnston
Brian Burke is scheduled to speak with reporters at noon. No word yet on the news.

I am sure it is unrelated..... or not? lol

Probably about Phaneuf's selection to the all-star game.  Coincidental.


Great, Burke is gonna tell us again how great the Leafs record is with Phaneuf in the lineup?  I got it Burke.  You made a good trade...
 

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