Gustavsson

[Rebel_1812]

It's only a matter of time I feel. Put a gun to my head, and ask me to guess either way, I say Gustavsson will not be with the organization by the new year.

I don't know if it will happen that quickly, but, I'm confident in saying he won't be in the organization next season - and, there's a very good chance he won't be in the NHL at that point as well.

Agreed.  He has had plenty of chances, but has squander it them all. 

 

[Kin]

I think you need to move him at this point.  Not starting him tonight is about as big a vote of non-confidence that you can get.  As bad as he has been, Scriven's actually has worse numbers and is getting the start.

I don't know if that's all true. I think that if you have a situation where neither guy is playing well then you basically have to ignore any notions of who the #1 is and just change things up until someone plays well.

 

[Jalili]

I was just thinking about the stuff Gustavsson's gone through in recent years. Losing both his parents shortly before coming over, multiple heart surgeries... clearly it's been a rough past few years on him as a human being.

But in terms of his NHL career, I think he's toast. Definitely not one of the top ~60 goaltenders in the world, which isn't an insult by any means.

I'm hoping he's replaced ASAP, whether it's Nabakov or even Turco.

 

[ZBBM]

http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2011/11/10/2551351/maple-leafs-news-ghost-of-goaltending-situations-past

Jonas Gustavsson has got to go. Waive him, trade him, sit him on the bench if you think Scrivens is the answer (though I doubt it) - whatever. It's not working out for the Monster.

Laughable.  The guy's currently slotted in as a backup, and he's got a .500 record.  In almost any situation that would be acceptable.

The fact is, Gus is holding the fort while Reimer is out.  He hasn't been great, but he hasn't been awful.  The way people are going on here, you'd think he'd lost every game he's played.  :

 

[Champ Kind]

http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2011/11/10/2551351/maple-leafs-news-ghost-of-goaltending-situations-past

Jonas Gustavsson has got to go. Waive him, trade him, sit him on the bench if you think Scrivens is the answer (though I doubt it) - whatever. It's not working out for the Monster.

Laughable.  The guy's currently slotted in as a backup, and he's got a .500 record.  In almost any situation that would be acceptable.

The fact is, Gus is holding the fort while Reimer is out.  He hasn't been great, but he hasn't been awful.  The way people are going on here, you'd think he'd lost every game he's played.  :

Agreed.  Gus' play hasn't been show-stopping, but he has won some games.  His puck handling has been aweful, though, and has certainly contributed to the negative impressions and opinions being developed.

 

[jdh1]

I was just thinking about the stuff Gustavsson's gone through in recent years. Losing both his parents shortly before coming over, multiple heart surgeries... clearly it's been a rough past few years on him as a human being.

But in terms of his NHL career, I think he's toast. Definitely not one of the top ~60 goaltenders in the world, which isn't an insult by any means.

I'm hoping he's replaced ASAP, whether it's Nabakov or even Turco.

I agree...I think his time in To are near over,the fact that he's still out of position on a lot of goals is more work in the minors needed.The Leafs aren't going to wait for that.

As well the fact that Scrivens is starting tonite in St.Louis is showing that management is looking elsewhere..whether its Ben or trade aquisition.

 

[Hank Yarbo]

The fact is, Gus is holding the fort while Reimer is out.  He hasn't been great, but he hasn't been awful.  The way people are going on here, you'd think he'd lost every game he's played.  :

The monster is pure awesomeness wrapped in bubble gum.

 

[Bender]

I honestly think his career was derailed by his heart surgeries and his parents' untimely deaths as sad as it sounds. He looked a lot better when he first arrived.

 

[Andy007]

I honestly think his career was derailed by his heart surgeries and his parents' untimely deaths as sad as it sounds. He looked a lot better when he first arrived.

Well he has also had to deal with sporadic starts and being held on a miniscule leash.
I think Gus really isn't suited to the backup role; he needs regular starts to build up his confidence and generate momentum.

 

[Champ Kind]

I honestly think his career was derailed by his heart surgeries and his parents' untimely deaths as sad as it sounds. He looked a lot better when he first arrived.

Well he has also had to deal with sporadic starts and being held on a miniscule leash.
I think Gus really isn't suited to the backup role; he needs regular starts to build up his confidence and generate momentum.

The definition of a catch-22. 

It'll be really hard to go back to Gus unless Scrivens poops the bed early on Saturday night.

 

[Andy007]

I honestly think his career was derailed by his heart surgeries and his parents' untimely deaths as sad as it sounds. He looked a lot better when he first arrived.

Well he has also had to deal with sporadic starts and being held on a miniscule leash.
I think Gus really isn't suited to the backup role; he needs regular starts to build up his confidence and generate momentum.

The definition of a catch-22. 

It'll be really hard to go back to Gus unless Scrivens poops the bed early on Saturday night.

Yea I agree. And all that flip flopping doesn't help either goalie. I really think they should just waive Gus and acquire/sign a veteran backup. Hell, sign two; Scrivens would probably benefit more from full time AHL games anyway.

 

[Mikhail Bloodnovsky]

Gus looked so sad on the bench last nite. Feel bad for him.

 

[Fanatic]

Gus looked so sad on the bench last nite. Feel bad for him.

Isn't that part of the problem? He hardly looks like a monster.

Scrivens on the other hand bounced back nicely after his last game. He was aggressive and very athletic. I am not sure his positioning and rebound control was great, but hey, he is a rookie. I thought he looked a lot more like a monster than Gus.

 

[bustaheims]

I think Gus really isn't suited to the backup role; he needs regular starts to build up his confidence and generate momentum.

I'm sorry, but, I don't buy that for a second, especially in light of what we've seen from Gustavsson when he's had that opportunity. It's generally been the same pattern - it takes him a game or two to get going, then he plays well for 2 or 3 games and then he starts to struggle for 2 or 3 games, so, he gets a game off and, hopefully, the cycle starts again, because, sometimes, he just keeps struggling after a night off. If he's not suited for the backup role, then, quite frankly, from what I've seen of him, he's not suited for the NHL.

 

[Andy007]

I think Gus really isn't suited to the backup role; he needs regular starts to build up his confidence and generate momentum.

It's generally been the same pattern - it takes him a game or two to get going, then he plays well for 2 or 3 games and then he starts to struggle for 2 or 3 games, so, he gets a game off and, hopefully, the cycle starts again, because, sometimes, he just keeps struggling after a night off. If he's not suited for the backup role, then, quite frankly, from what I've seen of him, he's not suited for the NHL.

Hey I can't disagree with anything you said.
I just think Gus would play better with more consistent work because he does have alot of ability and has shown flashes of brilliance.
He has also shown flashes (and then some) of extreme ineptitude so I understand why he's in the position he is in. 

 

[Arn]

I think Gus' time is up here, and I think it's fair to say I'd have been one of his biggest advocates. I felt a lot of the time he just didn't get the rub of the green or bounces went against him, but also at times he didn't help himself either.

I feel for him cos it hasn't worked out.

I suspect Burke might be able to get something for him - maybe a 5th round pick, who knows? That can then be packaged in future or something.

For Gus, maybe a fresh start is what he needs. I honestly still think he has the stuff to be a decent starter in this league. Not top of the range, but decent. I could see him going somewhere with less pressure, say a Columbus or some such and carving out a decent career. In many ways I kind of hope he does.

 

[Zee]

For Gus, maybe a fresh start is what he needs. I honestly still think he has the stuff to be a decent starter in this league. Not top of the range, but decent. I could see him going somewhere with less pressure, say a Columbus or some such and carving out a decent career. In many ways I kind of hope he does.

Gustavsson for Nash?

 

[maplesyrup]

For Gus, maybe a fresh start is what he needs. I honestly still think he has the stuff to be a decent starter in this league. Not top of the range, but decent. I could see him going somewhere with less pressure, say a Columbus or some such and carving out a decent career. In many ways I kind of hope he does.

Gustavsson for Nash?

Gus + for Brassard (who is a healthy scratch tonight.) ? I don't know, some folks think he might be a good fit for the Habs (Brassard that is) for obvious reasons.

 

[bustaheims]

I don't know, some folks think he might be a good fit for the Habs (Brassard that is) for obvious reasons.

He's French and over-rated? Sounds like a perfect fit.

 

[maplesyrup]

I don't know, some folks think he might be a good fit for the Habs (Brassard that is) for obvious reasons.

He's French and over-rated? Sounds like a perfect fit.

Exactly.