Gustavsson
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Floyd said:
...and like pnjunction pointed out one thing is not quite like the other.
I imagine Jonas was promised an opportunity in the Vatican and a potential relationship with Allaire, not much more but you could be right about the Marlies, in fact I think there was pretty decent debate about that OTOS in regards to adjusting to the NA game, the different angles and speed for the most part.
Zee
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Tigger said:
That's life in the big leagues. While it's fine to note the reasons why Gustavsson has struggled in his NHL career, that doesn't change the fact we need him to be better in net. Whether it's due to lack of NA playing experience, a fragile heart, mental issues, that really doesn't concern me, what concerns me is how shaky he looks in goal. If it keeps up much longer he'll be on a one way ticket out of town.
Kin
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Erndog said:
Ok, what I disagree with are the statements "If not for Gus, the Leafs win easy" and "Gus is the only(emphasis mine obviously) reason the Habs got a point".
You agree. So help me out with this. The Leafs won 5-4, right? So they scored 4 in regulation. What qualifies as winning easy? 2 goals? In order to win by two goals Gus could have only let in one goal. So which goal do we not give Gus the pass on? The very well placed shot off where he was out of place because the prior shot had hit a defenseman and bounced right to another Hab? And he was coming into the game cold? or is it the screened tip in front of the net? The Cammaleri goal was the weakest sure but even that is a case of a very good sniper making a very good shot while being all alone.
Of course, that ignores that one of the Leafs' goals shouldn't have counted. For the Leafs to have won by a two goal margin, based on the quality of their play, Gus would have had to have been perfect. That's a very tall order to ask of any goalie, let alone one coming into the second period.
But even then...nobody else played poorly? The Leafs hitting the post half a dozen times didn't contribute? Gus' poor play is the only reason the Habs were in it?
Again, Gus provided C- goaltending but to agree with either of those statements is fudgesicles.
Zee said:
Maybe and given Wilsons position that could be true however to say context doesn't matter is a bit off to me.
If we're going to base this on something as subjective as how he 'looks' then I disagree there too, the Boston game was a black hole of defensive assignments and say what you like but Cammalleri is a sniper, the first goal ( Kostitsyn ) was like Kessels goal against Giggy and the other came through traffic.
Put it this way, I have more subjective confidence in Goose as a back up than I ever had in Toskala as a starter.
maplesyrup
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Tigger said:
I'm down with that.
Redleaf
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Tigger said:
I think its pretty much a given that we'll see Scrivesn at some point in the next few games. I think management really want to get a look-see, and balance that off what Gus brings to the table. The only way we don't see Scrivens is if the Monster turns in a Monster performance the next couple of games!
Redleaf
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Tigger said:
Yeah. Well, I hope we don't see Scrivens for the reasons you mentioned. I want Gus to blow the doors off, and give everyone a reason to believe he's, at the very least, our back-up goalie going forward. Better yet, I'd like to see him challenge Reimer for the #1 spot. I'm just a little skeptical of either of those scenarios playing out in his favor.
Arn
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I really don't think Gustavsson has played as badly as some seem to be wanting to make out.
Against Boston I thought he kept us in it for long periods when we were 2 goals behind in the second (please excuse me cos my memory may be off on the timings) and he made some top saves. Yes, he wilted a bit when the game was lost and that is a concern I guess. In fact, if it weren't for the last 2 goals I'd almost have considered him a MOM candidate.
I only saw extended highlights of the Montreal game, but again he made some top saves, and of course we got the Win - this is all you can ever ask of a goalie. I don't think there was a bad goal against him in this one at all either, unlike the Boston game.
In a way, I kind of look forward to seeing him tonight and hope he plays lights out. I also hope the defensive zone coverage and shot blocking etc help him out!
Against Boston I thought he kept us in it for long periods when we were 2 goals behind in the second (please excuse me cos my memory may be off on the timings) and he made some top saves. Yes, he wilted a bit when the game was lost and that is a concern I guess. In fact, if it weren't for the last 2 goals I'd almost have considered him a MOM candidate.
I only saw extended highlights of the Montreal game, but again he made some top saves, and of course we got the Win - this is all you can ever ask of a goalie. I don't think there was a bad goal against him in this one at all either, unlike the Boston game.
In a way, I kind of look forward to seeing him tonight and hope he plays lights out. I also hope the defensive zone coverage and shot blocking etc help him out!
Some goalies need adjustment time, preseason and practice will only get you so far down the road to nhl game shape and timing, especially with that much time off before.
Almost wish Reimer would take one more game off just to see if Jonas could put two performances like that together.
Almost wish Reimer would take one more game off just to see if Jonas could put two performances like that together.
Tigger said:
Agreed. Gustvasson isn't the type of goalie who can play once a month.
BlueWhiteBlood
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CarltonTheBear said:
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