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Kris Versteeg

I guess it kind of falls under this thread's umbrella - Stalberg is really starting to spread his wings in Chicago...7G 13A +10, 2 GWG.
 
Madferret said:
I guess it kind of falls under this thread's umbrella - Stalberg is really starting to spread his wings in Chicago...7G 13A +10, 2 GWG.

Are we gonna mention every player the Leafs have ever traded who went on to do something on another team in this thread? 

Wellwood? 
Sullivan?
Boyes?
 
Madferret said:
I guess it kind of falls under this thread's umbrella - Stalberg is really starting to spread his wings in Chicago...7G 13A +10, 2 GWG.

He's just doing his best Ponikarovsky impression.
 
Zee said:
Madferret said:
I guess it kind of falls under this thread's umbrella - Stalberg is really starting to spread his wings in Chicago...7G 13A +10, 2 GWG.

Are we gonna mention every player the Leafs have ever traded who went on to do something on another team in this thread? 

Wellwood? 
Sullivan?
Boyes?

Isn't this the Ex-Leafs area? Like I said - Versteeg was part of the Stalberg deal.
Did you even post here when that deal went down?
 
Madferret said:
I guess it kind of falls under this thread's umbrella - Stalberg is really starting to spread his wings in Chicago...7G 13A +10, 2 GWG.

Good for him, he definitely has the tools to be a good NHL player.
 
Madferret said:
Zee said:
Madferret said:
I guess it kind of falls under this thread's umbrella - Stalberg is really starting to spread his wings in Chicago...7G 13A +10, 2 GWG.

Are we gonna mention every player the Leafs have ever traded who went on to do something on another team in this thread? 

Wellwood? 
Sullivan?
Boyes?

Isn't this the Ex-Leafs area? Like I said - Versteeg was part of the Stalberg deal.
Did you even post here when that deal went down?

None of us posted here when the deal went down, the site has only been up since July.  :P
 
Bates said:
How did Sens fans enjoy Pavel Demitra's career?

IT WAS BRUTAL WE JUST PRETEND IT NEVER HAPPENED AND ARE EXTREMELY HYPER-SENSITIVE ABOUT IT...ITS THE ONLY WAY TO DEAL WITH IT SOMETIMES
 
"They said how I was a screw that didn't fit their screwdriver. I was put on the third-line with AHL players. Wasn't used on power plays. There's no reason to get into all of it. But they had lost a lot of draft picks and they could trade me for some draft picks. So I was gone."

- Florida's Kris Versteeg on his time with the Toronto Maple Leafs.
 
hockeyfan1 said:
"They said how I was a screw that didn't fit their screwdriver. I was put on the third-line with AHL players. Wasn't used on power plays. There's no reason to get into all of it. But they had lost a lot of draft picks and they could trade me for some draft picks. So I was gone."

- Florida's Kris Versteeg on his time with the Toronto Maple Leafs.

Hard to argue with him on the AHL player angle I guess.  The roster wasn't very good last year.  He was young-ish, and struggled out of the gate like the rest of the team with 2 points in his first 9 games.  After that he put up 26 points in his next 37 games.

Not sure where he thinks he didn't get PP-TOI.  He played 2:52 on the PP last year.  His PP-TOI got cut down when he was doing a crappy job manning the point on the PP.  He's a guy the Leafs probably gave up on too soon, but he wasn't working with Kessel and the Grabovski line forced him onto the 3rd line.  Maybe if you scored 30 goals last year, you wouldn't have been traded Versteeg.

I think the bigger reason that he was traded was that a second 3+ million dollar salary on the 3rd line (how awesome is it to have Colby Armstrong not play half the year and put up 20 points!) was just too much money when the team already has a bloated payroll on the blueline with the worst salaries (Komisarek and Phaneuf) either a guy that you don't want to trade or still can't trade.
 
L K said:
hockeyfan1 said:
"They said how I was a screw that didn't fit their screwdriver. I was put on the third-line with AHL players. Wasn't used on power plays. There's no reason to get into all of it. But they had lost a lot of draft picks and they could trade me for some draft picks. So I was gone."

- Florida's Kris Versteeg on his time with the Toronto Maple Leafs.

Hard to argue with him on the AHL player angle I guess.  The roster wasn't very good last year.  He was young-ish, and struggled out of the gate like the rest of the team with 2 points in his first 9 games.  After that he put up 26 points in his next 37 games.

Not sure where he thinks he didn't get PP-TOI.  He played 2:52 on the PP last year.  His PP-TOI got cut down when he was doing a crappy job manning the point on the PP.  He's a guy the Leafs probably gave up on too soon, but he wasn't working with Kessel and the Grabovski line forced him onto the 3rd line.  Maybe if you scored 30 goals last year, you wouldn't have been traded Versteeg.

I think the bigger reason that he was traded was that a second 3+ million dollar salary on the 3rd line (how awesome is it to have Colby Armstrong not play half the year and put up 20 points!) was just too much money when the team already has a bloated payroll on the blueline with the worst salaries (Komisarek and Phaneuf) either a guy that you don't want to trade or still can't trade.

Versteeg was expected to have the kind of impact that Lupul is currently having.  When he didn't, he was gone, simple as that.
 
L K said:
Maybe if you scored 30 goals last year, you wouldn't have been traded Versteeg.

It's not like he was that far off. With the Leafs he was on pace for a 22 goal, 55 point season despite the crappy linemates and the bulk of his PP time coming on the point.

I think he's more or less right about getting dealt. I think Burke realized he had to retool his retooling and Versteeg was one of the guys on the roster with real value, who was a bit of a duplication with Kessel and who had real appeal to a team bound for the playoffs.
 
Zee said:
Versteeg was expected to have the kind of impact that Lupul is currently having.  When he didn't, he was gone, simple as that.

They expected him to be the 4th leading scorer in the NHL?
 
Zee said:
L K said:
hockeyfan1 said:
"They said how I was a screw that didn't fit their screwdriver. I was put on the third-line with AHL players. Wasn't used on power plays. There's no reason to get into all of it. But they had lost a lot of draft picks and they could trade me for some draft picks. So I was gone."

- Florida's Kris Versteeg on his time with the Toronto Maple Leafs.

Hard to argue with him on the AHL player angle I guess.  The roster wasn't very good last year.  He was young-ish, and struggled out of the gate like the rest of the team with 2 points in his first 9 games.  After that he put up 26 points in his next 37 games.

Not sure where he thinks he didn't get PP-TOI.  He played 2:52 on the PP last year.  His PP-TOI got cut down when he was doing a crappy job manning the point on the PP.  He's a guy the Leafs probably gave up on too soon, but he wasn't working with Kessel and the Grabovski line forced him onto the 3rd line.  Maybe if you scored 30 goals last year, you wouldn't have been traded Versteeg.

I think the bigger reason that he was traded was that a second 3+ million dollar salary on the 3rd line (how awesome is it to have Colby Armstrong not play half the year and put up 20 points!) was just too much money when the team already has a bloated payroll on the blueline with the worst salaries (Komisarek and Phaneuf) either a guy that you don't want to trade or still can't trade.

Versteeg was expected to have the kind of impact that Lupul is currently having.  When he didn't, he was gone, simple as that.

That's just a silly expectation to place on a 24 year old player (and he played the entire season at 24, so it wasn't like I'm calling him 24 when he turned 25 in October of that season).  He was a guy with two NHL seasons under his belt of 56 and 44 points, both 20 goal seasons.  Lupul's doing what he is doing now as a 28 year old.

Only 18 of the top 60 point getters this season are under 25.  That's just an arbitrary and stupid assessment by Burke if he gave up on a 24 year only player with only half a season when Versteeg was coming off two decent regular seasons, and solid playoff production in two consecutive years.    Had he continued with his November/December pace - 57 point 82 game pace, his season would have been shockingly similar to Kessel's overall.  Obviously he was traded and struggled in Philadelphia as well. 

Versteeg was a flawed player.  Quite frankly I don't remember being all that disappointed when he was traded last year either as it seemed like he was a very meh, kind of player when paired up with the roster, but it doesn't mean that on sober reflection that I can't see how quickly the team gave up on a younger player.

I mean, it's not the first time that the Leafs threw away a good young player who played a two-way game at 23/24 (Steen because Fletcher was a moron).
 
Saint Nik said:
Zee said:
Versteeg was expected to have the kind of impact that Lupul is currently having.  When he didn't, he was gone, simple as that.

They expected him to be the 4th leading scorer in the NHL?

No but they expected him to be one of the top players on the Leafs to play with Kessel and he wasn't able to click with him.
 
The guy is a definition of a doofus. I hated him when he was on the team and was glad to see him gone. He can chew on his mouthgard like an idiot, hog the puck and pretend he is Patrick Kane on another team.
 
Zee said:
No but they expected him to be one of the top players on the Leafs to play with Kessel and he wasn't able to click with him.

On the basis of half a season?
 
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