bustaheims
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Sounds like Dubas basically engineered his own way out - made demands he knew weren?t going to met and would ultimately lead to his dismissal.
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CarltonTheBear said:Bender said:I don't think it's bizarre from Brendan's perspective, I view it as bizarre from Kyle's POV. The way Kyle handled that presser really made me think he wasn't into it anymore and could see why that could impact Shanahan's thinking.
I mean how is what Dubas said any different really from any other free agent (player) talking about how they need to discuss what their future plans are with their family before coming to any definite agreement. Should the Leafs end any contract negotiations they had with ROR even though they really want him back because he basically said the same thing?
bustaheims said:Sounds like Dubas basically engineered his own way out - made demands he knew weren?t going to met and would ultimately lead to his dismissal.
L K said:Nonis, Lou, Dubas
Carlyle, Horachek, Babcock, Keefe
Shanahan
One of those things has been a constant. I have absolutely no trust in this organization at the moment
Bender said:bustaheims said:Sounds like Dubas basically engineered his own way out - made demands he knew weren?t going to met and would ultimately lead to his dismissal.
100000%
L K said:To be clear. Dubas absolutely plays a big part in this. That press conference was truly bizarre for a guy running an organization. I would have been looking at him as unreliable after that presser. But given that, the time to fire him was Tuesday not Friday
CarltonTheBear said:L K said:To be clear. Dubas absolutely plays a big part in this. That press conference was truly bizarre for a guy running an organization. I would have been looking at him as unreliable after that presser. But given that, the time to fire him was Tuesday not Friday
I don't have a problem with what he said on Monday. I can understand others thinking otherwise but that's just me. Having a framework for a new contract completed last weekend and then asking for a presumably hefty increase on Thursday is a pretty odd move on Dubas' part though (assuming that Shanny is being 100% truthful regarding that).
Rob said:Bender said:bustaheims said:Sounds like Dubas basically engineered his own way out - made demands he knew weren?t going to met and would ultimately lead to his dismissal.
100000%
Strung the Leafs along since the trade deadline? Then at the last minute demand more money? Kinda bizarre.
L K said:Obviously who the new GM is going to really determine how I feel about this. On the surface I'm not thrilled but it's not entirely unexpected or undeserved.
That presser on Monday didn't sound like a guy ready to go through the grind again
The autonomy stuff makes you wonder what he did/didn't want to do at times. Shanahan sitting through multiple GMs with nothing to show for it. The Shanaplan has been more of a bust in my mind and I hope he's the guy facing criticism moving forward
Rob said:Strung the Leafs along since the trade deadline? Then at the last minute demand more money? Kinda bizarre.
CarltonTheBear said:After putting my conspiracy theory hat on I wonder if Dubas was basically trying to make a play where his new contract could eventually transition him to the President position after Shanny's deal is done (2025) and Pridham would then take over the GM role.
That of course doesn't really work when you're negotiating with the guy you're trying to basically usurp. But, uh, props to him for trying?
bustaheims said:CarltonTheBear said:After putting my conspiracy theory hat on I wonder if Dubas was basically trying to make a play where his new contract could eventually transition him to the President position after Shanny's deal is done (2025) and Pridham would then take over the GM role.
That of course doesn't really work when you're negotiating with the guy you're trying to basically usurp. But, uh, props to him for trying?
Oh, he was definitely angling for Shanny?s job with those demands.
CarltonTheBear said:Rob said:Strung the Leafs along since the trade deadline? Then at the last minute demand more money? Kinda bizarre.
I mean the Leafs basically strung him along for the first 80% of the year. There's a reason GM's going into the final year of their contracts without an extension is almost unheard of.